Salty Alumz Get A Life

As someone in IFC, this is the truth. Expansion is currently closed at the moment. No chapters are officially returning, but there are talks on ATO coming back. If this were to happen, it would be voted on by IFC.

I’ve seen alum from Delt and Pi Kap also say they are retuning, which I find hard to believe. Nobody wants the frat who murdered a pledge to come back, and Delt also has a fairly shady history (though they have a much better chance than pi kap to come back). I definitely could see ATO returning, but it might be tough to get votes. Larger fraternities are currently enjoying less competition at the top, allowing them to get massive PCs and be choosier about who they take.

Middle sized fraternities would also be hesitant to vote on this, as it would cause even more competition with rush, and can cause issues with housing (D Chi about to lose house to phi delt, Sig chi and pi lam currently looking to upgrade, LXA hopefully grows to the size where they can get a better house). Adding another chapter, who would inevitably grow into a middle sized chapter, would cause even more competition.

Smaller fraternities would also probably not want another house to come back. If a chapter with a large alumni base were to return, they would take kids who couldn’t get bids at middle or top tier houses for their first 3 or 4 pcs. This would leave bottom tier frats with virtually nobody of quality to bid.

This doesn’t even bring up the fact that we now have more fraternities than sororities. For a while, there were more sororities than fraternities, which allowed student org pairings, sweetheart comps, etc to be much more favorable for fraternities, but this has flipped now. FSU IFC honestly messed up by adding so many. If some of the smaller frats with little to no history die out (d Sig, chi psi, ZBT, etc), or we see some more frats get kicked off, then some larger fsu alumni chapters, like ATO if they don’t soon, maybe Delt, would probably return. But until then, it benefits absolutely nobody to bring more controversial fraternities back to FSU.

Thank you “Truth” for a detailed explanation. My question is why doesn’t fsu add more sororities? Back during hard times for Greeks six sororities left fsu and a few more nearly shut down or rented rooms in their houses. Aloha Phi and AOPi came back after years. Signa Kappa, Alpha X Delta, AEPhi and Sigma Sigma never returned. Bring them back if you want to match the number of fraternities.

Honestly never thought about it, but I’d imagine it’s just a high barrier to entry. Sorority houses are insanely expensive to built, probably around $3-5 mil. Sororities like SK has houses at fsu, but sold them. I’d also imagine that it’d be hard to start up a sorority from scratch and gain members with no house.

thanks man for all this

Good intel in the houses and correct.
But original is wrong about fraternities not coming back. FSU admin doesn’t want fraternities with 200+ guys and will continue to add 1 per year. It’s already been approved for Phi Tau, ATO and Pi Kapp to return. It’s already been determined and they approve 3 at a time and bring back one per year.