Is this Hype or Truth?
by: BamaBound
Is this accurate:
OOR PNMs (especially from the Northeast) either join a NR sorority, or are OR filler members who get excluded from events and wind up miserable?
Any northern girls have a different experience?
Comment#2by: Hard facts
If you have a GPA over 4.0, you have a crack at AGD.
An OOR PNM without a lot of personal connections is not going to get a bid from AXO, KD, KKG, or XO. People on here will say you have a chance but it’s very, very low. If you OOR from the East Coast, not sure if you’d be happy in these super Southern girl houses.
If you are very attractive and stylize yourself like a Southern girl and not East Coast girl, you have a chance at PM and DDD.
You will likely end up in a NR house. The NR houses are great. A lot of talk here about NR being a bottom experience is BS and they are great. Southern girls don’t want NR so the dumb hate on GR continues.
You’ll be fine. Be yourself and ignore the ranks.
by: Maybe
Im just old enough to have been from the three houses at pref era. OOR/Midwest girl.
Don’t think much has changed.
Had two OR and one NR house for pref. The OR houses included one that is considered “insiders only” and one generally more open. I honestly didn’t have much of a clue during recruitment. Point is, if you are a fit and present yourself well,, you can get a bid to any house. It’s not “impossible”.
Went NR - as my first choice and never regretted it, in fact very glad I made my decision and never wished to be in any other house.
I knew various girls from OOR in OR houses - all of them. They loved their houses too. \n\n\n\n\n
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#3by: OOR too
I’m OOR from the North. I’m NR. Sophomore. Living in my house. Love it. Having a great time.
My friends are from all over the country including Southern states.
I got released from KKG, KD, and XO immediately after first round- they didn’t even meet me. I got cut from AXO and AGD after second round. I don’t really know anything about any of the house. Despite the releases, I still had a fairly full card for most rounds. I liked NR houses the best. They felt more like me. I had PM and my NR house at preference round. I put my NR house first and it’s the one I’m in.
It all works out as long as you don’t weirdly decide you only want one house because you liked their social media the best or whatever criteria PNMs use to decide they only want 1-2 houses despite not having met any girls in the house. That’s dumb and those girls are always crying and being dramatic during recruitment.
by: djsjnd
by: OOR too
#5by: OOR
The houses you mentioned already have their lists made. There are many connections from high school and camps. I loved AXO and DDD - dropped from both. I am OOR,had a 4.4 GPA, heavily involved, clean socials, and put together. I am happy in my NR house. A girl I went to H.S. with went Kappa and said there are events she isn't invited to, but has made friends with some other OOR girls in the house. Like everyone says, don't get your heart set on a certain house, as you will be one of the girls crying on the sidewalks.
by: Yep
Yes, the Actives in the traditional Southern houses personally know so many PNMs from their old high schools, Southern towns, cheer camps, Bible camps, etc. that they have their ideal bid list already prepared before Recruitment even starts. I’d say that’s true for KD, AXO, XO, KKG and DDD. To a lesser extent, PM. For this reason, these house are mostly Southern girls that had connections. You can be super smart, beautiful and really put together but without connections, it’s going to be hard to get a bid from those houses unless you are a real standout (like my OOR roommate who is a professional model).
Some OOR girls will get bids from the above houses but not many and their bids are usually a result of the girls on the top of the above houses’ bid lists choosing a different house at preference.
In my opinion, some of the NR houses are so much better than the OR houses because their sisterhood is stronger and cliques if sisters don’t bully each other.
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by: nope
this is not just a bama thing. obviously anyone knows more people at a school in the state they live in than they do people at oor schools. being in-state can also get you cut since actives know you or other people who know you and they may or may not like you. they know who is a top and who isn’t so special and who has a bad rep and all.
it’s bs that nr row houses have stronger sisterhoods. no one knows all about every house’s sisterhood. but you can check the cob list for the houses still needing members and it’s all nr as usual. doesn’t mean their sisterhoods are bad but more people drop for some reason.
pnms just need to go thru rush and make their own decisions. most of the junk on gr is posted by trolls who are mad about the house they got and mad at houses that cut them. if they are even in a house at all.
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#6by: IMHO
Go new row with “girls like you”!
This is nothing against “OR”, but if you are coming to Bama from areas not typical, there is likely no appeal to all the “connections” that OR will offer to southern towns.
If I stayed with my “OOR” home state university , would have joined “that house” with all the girls like me, from my HS/home town and similar areas from that state.
I came to Bama to NOT do that.
So why join ranks with those in that mode from the area? Generally, yes - these are girls interested in staying connected with people from their area and locale. It will be a battle to seem “relevant” and at best you get accepted.
It’s not a criticism. It is what it is.
NR isn’t “lesser” - hardly so from people out of the area. It is “lesser” only to those who are going to return home and are
In search of staying connected to those from that “turf”. \n\n\n\n\n
by: well
Well in-state girls here also go oos and oor just like you. Some want a more academically prestigious school, some want the experience of living in another region, and some want to escape their high school past (not in a good way) and start over. Greek life might not be a big thing at the school they choose.
But if they want the big package and to be part of the largest and greatest Greek system, they go here. Just like you. The in-state girls especially in large high schools and some private schools know what houses are top based on where people they know pledged. Just like you would in your state. If they wanted to avoid anyone they knew from high school they would go oos instead of pledging a less desired (in their mind) and lesser known house. Just like you did.
Maybe your chances of pledging any house were better here than where you came from? It works the same in your state.
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by: Hmmm
@ well
You seemed to have missed the point entirely.
What defines “top” to in-state (and certain other regional) girls has mostly no relevance to OOS and particularly OOR.
I’m not from your HS, not interested in “your church”, generally don't find the guys from your HS or church appealing and don’t want to move to your desirable suburb and join “the club” after graduation. This isn’t hateful or resentful (and definitely not jealousy) It just “is”.
You’d say the same about the “top houses” in my state school(s).
Whether you like it or not, Bama and Bama Greek life has a notable number of girls and guys like me.
And despite your claim, if we stayed at home, we could have been part of that “in state” dynamic, hanging out with old friends with plans to go back home “to the club”.
There is a purposeful decision to attract out of state and out of region students, and we tend to view the world and life at Bama with a different lense.
Your “top” just isn’t ours. \n\n\n\n\n
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by: well
Well in-state girls here also go oos and oor just like you. Some want a more academically prestigious school, some want the experience of living in another region, and some want to escape their high school past (not in a good way) and start over. Greek life might not be a big thing at the school they choose.
But if they want the big package and to be part of the largest and greatest Greek system, they go here. Just like you. The in-state girls especially in large high schools and some private schools know what houses are top based on where people they know pledged. Just like you would in your state. If they wanted to avoid anyone they knew from high school they would go oos instead of pledging a less desired (in their mind) and lesser known house. Just like you did.
Maybe your chances of pledging any house were better here than where you came from? It works the same in your state.
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#8by: Ignore GR
I personally know girls who came from OOS and went old row and they seem pretty happy. One of them told me she never expected to get the bid for her house because everyone told her it would be impossible because she was oos and didn’t know anyone in the house. She has no idea how it happened or how it works behind the scenes, but she is happy and met some fun girls. Her friend group in her house is other oos girls. Moral of the story… PNM’s are really just along for the ride. Follow all the advice about having a great rush, be yourself, and see where you land at the end, then start finding your friends in your new house, and just enjoy being part of Bama’s legendary Greek life.
by: Ppppfjfbdhhcbchd
@ignoregr-your comment needs to be pinned at the top of the discussion board forever. You land where you land.
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by: Clarify please.
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by: choices or not
Pnm's don't get to choose who to 'bother with' or not. They go to the sororities on their schedules and their rankings have very little to do with it. The sororities do the choosing.
The pref round is where your ranks actually matter. Look around at the other pnm's with you at pref, because these girls would be your new member class. The class you go in and initiate with is who you will bond with and will determine your social life for your time in your sorority, not the older members who are rushing you. Rank your houses with this in mind because your new member class will make or break your sorority experience.
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