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new tiers: spring 2016

by: Spring 2016   

After taking into consideration the new grades posted, the last PC each sorority got, showing in competitions and the size of each house, I propose we have a discussion about tiers.

Now, this is a discussion. So if you disagree with me, I'd like you to say why or maybe even offer your own version of tiers. Let's keep this as unbiased as we can, this is Greek RANK after all. Let's rank!

Top: No Order

XO
Pi Phi
Theta
GPhi

Upper Middle: In Order

Delta
ADPi
KKG/AXO (Different types of girl, same level of selectiveness in my book)

Middle:

KD
DG
Alpha Phi/Zeta

Bottom:

SK
Phi Mu
Sigma

Posted By: Spring 2016
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#1by: Spring 2016   
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Everything but the top tier is in order and here are my reasonings.

1. AXO: Grades have always been on the upswing and you seriously cannot join a club on campus without running into an AXO. They're smart, driven, well involved and getting cuter by the day. So they're upper middle.

2. Delta: 267 girls? There's trouble in Delta-land and their retention is showing it. Dropping in grades, the girls aren't as cute which was their claim to fame. They've really let Pi Phi and AXO outshine them.

3. Zeta: Improved their grades and attitudes, better showing in competitions. I can't justify lumping them in with our two worst houses on campus (Sigma and Phi Mu) and our newest house (SK) any longer. They've fought hard and earned middle tier.

4. APhi: Bad grades, bad attitudes, bad showing in competitions, just bad. They had a niche of being laid back cool girls and when they lost that, the quality went down hill.

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#2by: Spring 2016   
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Again, this is just a discussion! So feel free to disagree or make your own ranking. I think it's nice that we have new information from the Spring grades and now we can discuss if anything has changed.

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#3by: My opinion   
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All in order

Top

XO
Pi Phi
Theta

Upper Middle:

GPhi
APhi
AXO
Delta (questionable considering their problems)

Middle:

KKG
DG
ADPi
KD
Zeta

Bottom:

SK
Phi Mu
Sigma

By: My opinion
by: My opinion   

My rankings are based on who is most desired as a pnm and satisfied as sisters

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by: Nope.   

APhi, ADPi and KKG are all in the wrong spot BY A LOT.

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by: ^   

I'm gonna guess you're an ADPi and think you should move up but you lost WAY too many girls to be higher than where you are. Kappa not sure if you think they should be higher or lower, I think I placed them where most people do and APhi people hate on because of grades and I just don't care about my sisters grades but yes if that's a big priority to you you'd probably want to switch around a number of my ranks.

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by: No effing way   

On what planet is APhi preferenced over KKG, ADPi and Delta? Hell, A Phi isn't even preference over AXO yet your list has them ranked higher than them. You're a moron.

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by: ^   

I put delta low on the list because of the recent mishap, usually girls would have prefed Delta over APhi. That listing was primarily because their poor rentention rate this year. As for ADPi and Kappa, my friends in more social houses like APhi wouldn't be caught dead in. They're just totally different houses, can you see any APhi types having said damn I wish ADPi would've kept me around? ADPi also has consistently terrible retention rates so that's why I put them low on the list. If you don't agree make your own list with your own criteria.

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by: Lol   

I don't know a single adpi or kappa who would ever wish they were in Aphi but I do know aphis who wish they could've been kappas or adpis..... So settle down there, Aphi.

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by: No   

ADPis and Kappas are interchangeable. Aphi is NOT. Aphis did not wanna go to those houses, I'm not saying they're better but they're 100% looking for a different experience

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#4by: Nope   
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There's no way GPhi should be ranked that high. Their grades are a joke.

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Why because they have a 3.2 instead of a 3.3?? Ohhhh damn you're so much better than them

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#5by: uh   
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how could GPhi be top when their grades are below SK, an undisputed bottom tier house? come on

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Maybe because the majority on pnms couldn't care less what a sorority's GPA is especially when the difference is only .1! It's reality whether you ADPis and company want to believe it or not. Tiers are based on desirability. Who do pnms want a bid from? And reality is that social life (incl sisterhood) is the top thing pnms are looking for. They're looking for fun and a home away from home. Not to simply be surrounded by a house whose mediocre GPA is .1 higher than another houses mediocre GPA. It's overall irrelevant beyond the individual.

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by: Nuances    

I think the argument is that GPhi is more desirable in other areas that make up for grades. I mean, if we were judging tiers JUST on grades then we'd have a very different looking tier system than we do.

Grades factor into it but GPhi has never been a "smart girl" house, so their grades falling isn't really a surprise if that makes sense? Whereas Theta advertises themselves as an academic house, so if their grades were to fall it would be cause for alarm.

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by: Yes   

You are correct that there are many PNMs who don't care about a sorority's GPA. That's because these same PNMs have terrible grades themselves and are desperate to be accepted into a house - any house. But I can assure you the QUALITY PNMs who sail through rush care very much about their GPA and don't want to be a member of a house that doesn't. There are girls who attend college to do the best they can and to be the best they can. They want their letters to represent that. And I assure you that if you did an analysis of the girls who drop rush and don't make it into the better houses, their grades are def. a factor. Quality attracts quality. End of story. And GPhi and APhi and the rest of the GPA bottom feeders don't attract quality.

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by: You're so wrong   

Quality girls? It's actually kind of disgusting that you'd refer to someone with a 3.0 GPA as not a quality person. From my sisters with a 4.0 to my sisters with a 3.0, they're all incredible girls. I had a 3.9 going into rush and a 4.0 in business school on a full ride and had no desire to go into a house based on GPA, despite a number of them trying to dirty rush me. I didn't see how it would benefit me, I can get awesome grades without having "smart" friends. Being around sweet, caring, fun sisters has added SO much to my college experience. I am beyond grateful and proud that my sorority bases bids primarily on connection with each other because we have the most incredible atmosphere in the house.

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by: ?????   

I call B.S. And how can a sorority bid on your "connection with each other" when you don't even know each other until you become a member? Not so smart, are you?

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by: ^   

I'm not the girl you're talking to but doesn't everyone try to give bids based on connections? I thought a week would be too quick but my experience with first impressions has been so accurate... Literally every girl I loved I still loved and every girl I didn't like I still don't like. It's like dating, you can sense chemistry fairly quick

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by: Ah, no   

For the better houses the connection has to be there, of course. But in order to even be considered they must rise to the top when it comes to grades, activities, leadership, recs and even looks. It's the whole package. But it is the lower tier houses who go on and on about how someone just "clicked."

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by: Well   

ALL of the grades are not THAT far apart. In order to really determine TRUE gpa(and since they are fairly close enough this is irrelevant) but you would have to do a break down on majors, difficulty of classes, etc. If a sorority was sitting with a 2.8, that would be a different story. Rumors fly about girls being bullied to drop, etc because their grades aren't up to par in certain houses. Rumors fly about houses not ACCURATELY reporting numbers, members etc. When ALL of those gpa's are that close this topic is meaningless. The poster who said SO much more factors in to tiers, other than grades, is absolutely correct. You get a handful of girls coming in seeking out 'top gpa' houses. And how could we even say a house is well rounded if that is all they are known for? Most girls I know wanted a house where they felt comfortable as opposed to a house that had a slightly better gpa than the others. really thought after all of this talk of 'grades' that we would see a few houses sitting at a 3.8-these grades are too close to count-especially when some of those 'top grade houses' are sitting with some pretty easy majors(and that is a FACT)!

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by: ^   

HELL yea! It's ridiculous. This was really well said.

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by: Question to Well   

I would like to know what you consider an easy major?

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by: Basically   

Any arts/humanities or social science. J school isn't super to get into but easy to stay in. Basically anything that is theory based and not technical. I took some "tough" humanities courses as electives and what a joke. No to mention (aside from j school) these programs will not get you a job out of college.

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by: ok   

not super easy to get into as an incoming freshman, but once you are in it is a pretty manageable major, not easy-but def manageable . J School has the most kids that can handle jobs in college over any other major. Pre Law, Pre Med, Pre Nursing, Engineering, and only certain other Health Professions have the most intense curriculums. Those are facts if you look them up on Mizzous website. Personally I would go to a smaller or private university if I was majoring in any of the above because they are so competitive. I know I am forgetting one..don't blast me on it-let me know what it its!

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I would guess the b-school? But yes just like you said, the hardest part about j-school is getting in.

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#6by: Gphi?   
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How is it that aphi gets bottom three in grades and everyone wants to put them in low mid tier or bottom tier now, while Gphis grades have always sucked (and still suck), and a few loonies want to make them top tier? After all the scandals, the poor retwntion, the lack of involvement, and the piss poor grades... WHY THE HELL ARE WE PUTTING GPHI IN TOP??!! Makes no sense. No sense at all.

By: Gphi?
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Several reasons.

1. GPhi didn't run around this website trying to tier jump, claiming they were smarter than bottom tier houses like APhi did only to have those claims refuted by a grade report

2. GPhi has never been popular for having good grades, they've been popular for other reasons. One of the reasons APhi was considered middle tier and not bottom because they consistently outdid bottom tier houses in grades and that's not the case anymore

3. When an average house falters in more than one area, the culmination of those things bring a house down. Grades didn't destroy Alpha Phi but they were the nail in the coffin.

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by: ^   

Ummm k what I don't think Aphi ever said they were smarter than anyone lmao

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by: aphi??   

I mean, G Phi didn't do horrible in grades, they still beat DG, and A Phi. All three of those houses ( and prob Tri Delt too) compete for the same girls so idk they all kinda suck grades wise but none of them really care that much.

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by: what??   

"2. GPhi has never been popular for having good grades, they've been popular for other reasons. One of the reasons APhi was considered middle tier and not bottom because they consistently outdid bottom tier houses in grades and that's not the case anymore"
Last semester they were second to last. they've never had good grades?? At least this semester they're above phi mu which they weren't before. Outdoing a single bottom house isn't "outdoing bottom tier"

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I am sorry you don't think that sisterhood is important. There were some houses, top and bottom, where the whole experience/conversation was awkward for ME. I am sure someone else loved it. I didn't consider grades at all in my choice. I "clicked " with girls in my group during recruitment while waiting in line together, eating lunch together. Funny thing is they liked the same house I did and we all ended up there together- at our first choice! We all clicked and felt comfortable at the same house. And I knew absolutely no one in my recruitment group. Seriously, like 10 girls. So I think it is ridiculous that you say "clicking" doesn't happen. You probably aren't very social. Every sorority has older girls in all majors who can sell you old books, help you with homework etc. And for crying out loud, I earn my own grade. Being in a sorority doesn't give me an advantage. I am pleased with my own personal grades and that is all I need to worry about.

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Pretty girls click with pretty girls, as do homely ones. That's why houses tend to stay in the same realm of pretty

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