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We already let SK, PhiMu and Sigma in, and they don't exactly have great nationals. Let's make those houses better before we add more.

i believe presentations are happing sometime after spring break, or they already happened. you are right about the process, but that process started last fall. you're late to the party. DZ has a chance of coming to campus.

Then that's the best kept secret on campus. Pretty impressive to do all of that and yet none of the PHA delegates have said a word to any of their chapters, and we somehow bypassed the requirement of notifying NPC, etc., etc.

SK is the biggest house on campus right now. Tell me how are they struggling.

It's true! Zeta is sooooo threatened by the other bottom tier houses they will do anything to try and get ahead! If anyone is struggling, it's ZETA - not the other three! When no one wants to join your house, or all your new members want to drop... Yeah zeta be careful what you say!

You know what would happen if another sorority came to Mizzou. The top and high-middle tiers would stay the same and the bottom tier would just expand. Girls who go through rush want to be in a house with a rich history and a strong reputation and would continue to drop out of rush if they only had bottom tier choices. So there is no guarantee more women would join a sorority instead of dropping. And the bottom tier houses will continue to have retention issues even if DZ came. I agree that we should strive to make PhiMu, SK, Sigma and even Zeta stronger before adding another house. When sororities take dozens and dozens of girls in spring in order to keep their numbers up, that is not a thriving house.

But Sigma IS struggling. They have around 200 members when everybody else is near or over 300. Even Phi Mu is bigger by about 70 girls.

Sigmas may be nice and have good sisterhood, but that's not going to keep them from getting their charter pulled. A sorority is a sisterhood, but it's also a business - and you don't keep a business open that's hemorrhaging money.

EVERY NPC SORORITY HAS A RICH HISTORY AND STRONG REPUTATION. These are organizations that have been around for 100+ years and have weathered the test of time. Every one of the 15 NPC groups at Mizzou is amazing.

I wish everyone here would stop trying to sell PNMs on the idea that some houses are good and some are bad. Yes, maybe some are stronger in certain areas or are more popular. But there is no bad house here.

Didn't phi kapp get kicked off? So they could possibly buy their house couldn't they?

Possibly! They'd still need an invite to colonize though.

Could someone address this with PHA and see what could be done. This site is an embarrassment to the whole Mizzou Greek community. Can we choose not to be included on this site? If it's not possible can we at least put a paragraph in the recruitment book sent to PNMs letting them know what our opinions are about this site? This site does a disservice to all of our houses, not just the bottom tier but in my opinion is most harmful to our PNMs.

Sure, there are differences superficially that can be seen through our lovely recruitment system. But, when a house is trying to improve and move past those stereotypes, this website is always here to continually remind EVERYONE of their stereotype they are trying to get rid of. I've noticed with many of houses that a lot of stereotypes are even bred from this website! I could post and comment every day the same thing about the same house and people would start to believe it. Also, it's human nature to only remember the negatives than positives. In real life and greek town, people don't talk about tier systems, stereotypes, etc. they base their judgements off of the girls or guys they know in the house. Mizzou greek life in real life is a strong community. This website shows the complete opposite. there are only so many girls who have great grades, involved, attractive and social. Those girls go to the top houses and it trickles down from there to the bottom. So please do not blame the lower houses for just having poor judgement, it really comes down to the amount of quality girls rushing that year.

I'm simply saying that our bottom chapters could probably improve immensely faster if this website were not a thing. If all of our houses were at least at quota and could keep a full house, then maybe chapters like DZ could be added.

It is outrageous to blame the poor showing of some houses on a lack of quality girls going through rush. I doubt there have never been as many outstanding girls going through rush, ever, in the history of greek life at this school. Grade cuts (at the houses that do grade cuts) have never been higher. We could have filled a pledge class last year with just girls who had 3.9s or higher (unweighted) who also were outstanding in other ways, and attractive. No, the problem is that the lower-tier houses generally are those with lower-tier national that just don't know how to put on a great rush. And many houses are greedy and just want to fill a pledge class instead of being more selective. If you are an outstanding PNM and have a conversation on the sidewalk on the last day of rush with a girl who really doesn't have that much to offer, it makes you less likely to want to be a member of that house and have that girls as your sister.