What accounts for this Societal Shift
by: deep
What do you guys account for the societal shift back to greeks, like even in 2015 etc Greek Life was smaller and not as good quality after it had died down, we're now seeing wayyy bigger PC's with higher quality girls. Same with pageants, they're becoming more popular after lagging for a few years.
I personally think it's a backlash against Americans being told to be ashamed of our own culture and a dilution of born and bred americans
Comment#3 by: Um
Idk about the rest of what you’re talking about, but we are not seeing more girls rushing and bigger pledge classes at alabama. The biggest recruitment at this school was in 2016 with most pledge classes have at least 150 girls, many with more. The number of girls rushing and pledge class sizes have gone down since peaking in 2016
by: @@umAug 23, 2020 8:53:25 PM
#4 by: rtr
The overall devaluation of college education and mass promotion of collegiate partying/public glorification of Greek life.
-A college degree/working hard in college isn't a guarantee of relative success anymore since everyone and anyone can go to college. Rounding out the experience and clinging to anything that represents an opportunity to perpetuate that experience (and possible reap benefits down the road via networking) is appealing.
-"I'm Schmacked" "Old Row" "TFM" all pushed Greek life into young pop culture in a way that hadn't happened yet with social media. It made Greek more relevant and more appealing, but also brought in rushees for the wrong reasons. Arguably, these groups are a huge detriment to the longevity of Greek Life.
Also-It's UA. They used to advertise the University with Greek Life and Bear Bryant. It's rarely been an "education first, fun second" type institution. 75% of the social activities and traditions on campus are built around Greek life.
What is true at UA is not true of other institutions. The South tends to be 20-30 years behind U.S. Society in terms of priorities and mannerisms.
by: ctdAug 23, 2020 4:27:44 PM
Crazy conservatives like to point at UA and go "look! The student body is becoming Greek and goes to church! The young are becoming traditional!"
When in reality it's Alabama, where spite sets the rules, and "tradition" is slowly being made more and more palatable, rather than going away entirely (for now). What was true of millenials in the North will likely be true of Zoomers in the South.
Students aren't becoming hard-line Episcopals, Lutherans, Catholics, or staunch Baptists, they're becoming wishy-washy. They attend evangelical "non-denominational" churches that offer easy salvation and guiltless sermons, with lessened relations with clergy (Highlands anyone?), to check a perceived box in their lives and avoid the realities of a religious life.
Greek life is another one of those boxes. It's a key to social activity and a sense of belonging. Eventually, when the social view shifts, that sense of belonging or necessity will fade. The cards of time have been dealt, Greek life will evolve or die in the future.
(I am a UA Greek alumni)
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by: DeadAug 23, 2020 6:51:19 PM
Greek life is going to die out because there isn’t going to be enough alumni to help keep it going. Most people pretty much abandon their sorority after graduation. Literally look up any alumnae chapter for any sorority and it’s gonna be loaded with 50 year olds. Unfortunately a lot of people see it as a 4 year drinking club and will not be of any assistance.
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by: @deadAug 23, 2020 9:43:25 PM
That isn't true. There is young alumni support. But obviously it will be highest from 40 - 50 year olds because they are firmly established in their careers and have enough money to donate large sums back to their house. and also more time on their hands to help with certain things etc. Kids fresh out of college who are struggling to find jobs are simply not able to donate to their chapter or physically help out with future planning because they are building a career and don't have time.
No matter what era or sorority, the alumni board has always been made up of 40 year olds to 60 year olds.
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by: CTDAug 24, 2020 6:53:06 PM
Someone reported my earlier posts detailing the changes I anticipate. Sorry y'all can't read them.
Guess someone doesn't like real life examples of policy being changed due to terrible behavior, or honest thought on the decadence of UA Greek Life.
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by: @ctdAug 25, 2020 9:00:18 PM
This is so retarded, someone reported my post replying to yours too. I hope you got to read my reply. It is kind of dumb that they were reported and taken down, since both of us were respectful to each other and weren't arguing
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by: @.. Aug 23, 2020 10:49:17 PM
And I think the increased social media presence will only make greek life more and more popular
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by: Next?Aug 24, 2020 9:10:33 PM
by: @nextAug 25, 2020 9:01:45 PM
Do you know why they voted to disband? Most likely it was because of financial reasons
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#7 by: Tbh
I think saying there’s been a societal shift is just because of prospective.
I can promise you the girls who rushed in 2010 thought the exact same thing when comparing to girls who rushed in 2002(That they were higher quality PNMs, better looks, etc). Many of the stereotypes that existed then are still the same today.
Just how some members may say their current sorority experience is way better than that of previous generations. The alums might think their experience was better than the experience of current members.
by: yesAug 26, 2020 2:21:50 PM
Exactly. Every couple years when fashion and trends change we look back at previous years and think we're "better". The same way girls who rush in 2025 will probably think they're "better" than us.
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by: @UmAug 23, 2020 6:26:25 PM
You're missing the point. Even though 2016 was the peak, the levels are still remaining higher year after year than they were before.
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