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by: ?I've heard rumors about houses already having their pledge lists set before rush even starts. Is this true? Like having green/blue lists and then everyone left over is red. If so, what houses do this? Just want to prepare myself ahead of time
#1 by: ...
It doesn’t matter because there is nothing you can do. You’ll know when you join a sorority if that is how they do things. Sororities have their eyes on certain girls, but nothing is set in stone. That’s why recruitment week happens. So go in there looking your best, be confident, have good conversations, and things will happen the way they should. You can’t change your GPA, recommendations, or anything else so just do what you can and have fun!
Commentby: ^Aug 9, 2018 7:08:06 PM
by: Pc18Aug 9, 2018 10:23:27 PM
by: cutsAug 10, 2018 7:33:47 AM
If you're on some sort of cut list before the week starts it's either your GPA or a QR notice from an active or alum (like you stole money when you were prom chair or you are a well known bully). There is nothing you can do about these, you will never know if that's why you were cut, there is no reason to worry about this.
Most PNMs fall in a middle place and we are looking forward to meeting you. Do your best to stand out in conversation and presentation so you rise up our invite lists!
"Unknown" PNMs make up important parts of our chapters because no chapter will get every PNM they are interested in prior to rush, some of these turn out to be duds in person, and not every legacy wants to go to her legacy chapter.
The only thing you have control over at this point is how you interact with us on the day. And if you do want a leg up, make the late in the day parties easier for us because we are just as tired as you so if conversation at the last couple of parties each day goes well with you, we will remember you even more for saving us!
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by: NahAug 9, 2018 5:46:04 PM
But I was hoping that PNMs might read it and get worried about being on these lists.
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by: sorry?Aug 9, 2018 5:46:27 PM
Didn't realize it was a problem for me to ask. Not sure why some actives feel the need to be rude
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by: ^Aug 9, 2018 6:28:42 PM
It's a rude question in the first place. Ask that in person at a house and see what happens to you.
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#4 by: Yep
#5 by: List
All OR have those lists, but the list of “middle girls” or girls they don’t know a whole lot about are where moves happen. Girls get moved off the target lists and moved to middle or cut and middle girls get moved up to the target list all the time. The only group that doesn’t move is the red or cut list. In my house you’re on that list for below a certain GPA (usually a 3.4 or below) or not having a rec or having a bad reputation or something bad on your rec. once you’re on that list it doesn’t matter how gorgeous you are or what a sparkling personality you have - you’re cut.
by: RedAug 9, 2018 7:52:13 PM
About being on the red/cut ASAP list, would anyone be put on there if they were lacking a polished Instagram? Assuming the PNM has grades, Recs, good school, and no QR?
I guess I’m also asking whether most PNMs start in the middle but get put in the green or red lists later.
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by: ^Aug 9, 2018 8:05:22 PM
No, not an unpolished one, but an inappropriate insta automatically goes to the cut list. This depends on the definition of inappropriate though, and some houses' standards are stricter than others. About half the pnm's are in top or bottom lists to start and the other half are in the middle. Like already said, the bottom list girls have no hope, the top list girls can disappoint and move down, and the middle has to shake out somehow by rounds 2 and 3 so that's where we focus.
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#8 by: Come on
Come on...of course there are lists there has to be lists. You can't manage rush of 2500 girls without them. What you think happens when they get your rec? What do you think happens when some aunt or mom calls and says little Suzy a 10th generation XYZ is rushing this year? Their names are put on a list.
This is a fact of life, all business decisions are based off lists pros/cons, costs, experience, reputation...
#9 by: U
A difference among houses is that the older a house is on old row, there is a bigger “yes” list with legacies and connected pnms, with a smaller relative middle group. Like axo and pmu will have more move from middle to top for them because they are starting with fewer slots “spoken for” so to speak. This ability to react to what is happening during recruitment helps them curate classes while th new girls that have good potential to make a mark.
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by: YepAug 9, 2018 5:48:07 PM
All the top houses do something along those lines. They have a red or cut list and there is basically no way to change that. Then they have a middle where pnms they want to need to learn more about. Then they have their blue green or whatever list that is going to have their targets. A pnm can defibately lose status as parties unfold and/or we get more info. Like somebody can come in cute with a good resune and recs and good social media and be middle, then confirm she is everything the resume and recs say she is — and she can move to the target list. Likewise, somebody could be in the top list because of a friend in house pushing for her or whatever, then come in and flop and get moved to middle or even to the cut ASAP list. Every house has different ways to deal with so many pnms. The OR houses generally have do have a system like this to manage their mandated cut levels.
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