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less pnms this year

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So far there seems to be less pnms than previous years there are only a few days left and now recruitment cost $450 and with early move almost $600 so it’s a steep price to pay. It’s not something where you just decide to try it so what do you think the final number will be

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#1by: less PNMs   
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`Less freshman admitted to UA this year
`More Greek scandals across the country giving Greek a bad name
`More unhappy OOS transferring home and spreading the word
`Tuition up and scholarship amounts down making the luxury of rushing $$$\n\n\n\n\n

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Only a few days left until we know how many

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2137

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#2by: curious   
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It was in the low 2100s last time I checked... probs won’t get much higher I’m thinking. Stressing grades so much is scaring a lot of girls I think

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Agree about the grades -- for an OOS PNM from a top rated, rigorous high school in MA or NY, a 92.0 GPA is considered very good -- and even though most high schools in Alabama do not compare in terms of state curriculum standards it just doesn't matter. So a 92 GPA in your private, $55K a year MA boarding school with college level rigor is just the same at an Alabama run of the mill high school. Not even worth trying to make that case. It's a shock to these OOS PNMS that no one cares that your high school is nationally ranked, or that your high school routinely sends 15+ grads to the Ivies each year. It's a rude awakening to these girls.

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by: Act   

As someone who went to a rigorous high school, I don’t think this comes up often. Mainly because having girls rush who went to nationally ranked boarding schools is so rare it’s almost not worth talking about, but also because girls with decent scores from top schools don’t have issues. It’s the girls with mediocre grades, who think they are superior just because their school was hard, who struggle. Involvement also tells a big story in these cases.

A 3.3 or 3.4 from a great school? Super. A 2.9 from a top school? Not so much.

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For anyone wondering it’s 2127 right now

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wtf is a 92 gpa? out of 100? or what? wouldn't that be like a 3.6 on a 4 scale? thats still good

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#3by: And   
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Lower numbers and a new house in the mix....

How will this play out. Fewer in each pledge class at every house?

What about houses that had larger member losses?

Do some houses rely on COB after formal rush. For some houses this may be a better approach.

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My prediction is that more houses than usual will COB this year

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#4by: Yes   
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Wasn’t there 2,800 last year? This is definitely a lot lower than normal. I think knowing the price makes it harder to justify because before you seriously just couldn’t imagine it would cost that much. Also the cost for recruitment is very high here compared to other schools so it’s not just something to try out.
Should make for smaller classes and it may give the actives an easier time actually getting to know everyone. 700 less girls may be a relief for the actives it’s just so many pnms

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PCs in the 120-125 range would be a welcome change.

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I think 2017 has 2600 sign up and around 2400 showed up to first round. 2016 was the massive pledge year.

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#5by: T   
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Were there really less freshman admitted this year. I thought admissions was growing

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Enrollment of new freshman is down for the first time in years. Why? The school changed the top scholarship $ and raised the cut off scores for OOS. They are focusing more on IS since they are losing so many to Auburn. Next year scholarship $ has already been announced and they are throwing $ at IS to get it back in balance and closer to their mission to educated Alabama kids. It is a balancing act to keep the OOS top kids coming (to keep increasing the # of top scorers - NMF,Presidential scholars) and to keep the full pay OOS kids interested to off set keeping costs down for IS. Our IS tuition is not going up next year but OOS is going up like 5% again. IS scholarhsips for next year will have more $ at the middle and lower? levels but the same for amount for OOS with higher tuition prices.

I know this because I have a sibling going through application/college selection now and this is a big topic. Hope she chooses Bama but she has lots of friends headed to Auburn and some already there.

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#6by: Excited   
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I will be so stoked to have a pledge class that is under 125 girls. We might actually be able to rent out decent places for parties next year! We already have to do early and late chapters to handle the number of actives. We are too big.

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#7by: Same   
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Hoping for less pnms this year. There are just too many and so many of them drop a year or so later.
Just rush if you’re playing on four year and intend to spend the $60,000 it will cost all four year

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#8by: @less fresh   
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I wonder if that’s going to hurt some of the momentum for NR/more OOS focused houses?

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#9by: Number   
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Anyone know what number they are at so far

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It’s posted above that it’s 2137

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#10by: Largest   
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What was the largest class of pnms
I thought it was 2,900

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2016 we were supposed to break 3,000 but it came out to be around 2,800 and around 2,700 actually showed up for convocation if I remember correctly

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