bid list

how do you know which list the houses put you on?

You never will for sure unless maybe you're BFFs with the rush chair at the house you pledge

If you don't get your first choice then you will know that you weren't on their first bid list but that's about it. Don't obsess; move forward in the house that WANTED YOU. You will never know how the houses rank you. Even the actives don't know. Only the Recruitment Chairman and a few others know. Same with Snap Bids. No one needs to know because it doesn't matter. All new members are equal.

You will never know where you fall on a list. Ever. Even if you are bff with the rush chair. You will always be told "you were next on our list" or some variation on that.

Just no.

Pi Phi fills up pretty fast too, so if you had like XO, PBP and DG at pref and ranked in that order it goes like this:

The system will try to match you with XO because it is your first rank. If XO fills up (matching with other pnms that they had higher than you on their list) before they get to you, then system will try to match you with your second rank. If they are also filled up by the time your name is processed, then the system will go to the third. If you don't match with the third, then you will be a quota addition at one of the three. All this is processed in a big batch overnight after the pref cards are submitted.

So if you get three for pref, and rank all three -- but two of the three are highly sought after, whether or not you get your top one or two, or fall to the third, all depends on where those sought after houses list you.

last comment -- this is also why the "bottom" houses on GR still end up getting a lot of great girl and that no house here is truly not good. If a great pnm goes to pref with AXO, Kappa and (say) ADPi, and she is really great but just could not get into AXO and Kappa because of their high legacy numbers, then that person may end up at ADPi, even if they put it first. It does not mean ADPi is bottom or that the pnm will be unhappy, it just means the numbers did not work out for her at AXO and Kappa. The goal going into pref is to try to reinforce things so they put you at least on the first two lists (there are three lists, I think, each with the quota number). It is possible at the higher return rate houses the size of the second and third lists may not be full quota. IDK. Does anybody know?

You only get one bid in this process. Period.

Someone said above "doesn't mean you will get a bid to each of the (pref) houses" and wanted to make this clear. You will only get one bid.

I have friends from other schools - different process- where bids get handed out then you select from them. There the "best" pnms get multiple bids. And, I suspect they think it doesn't reflect well that I only got one bid. Not worth explaining this entire process....lol

But if you haven't been through this and known of other schools through your mom, sister, or friends note this is a one bid only process.

Oh - and this also explains some of the "crying".

You could have your favorite at pref and feel really positive about it - think you were getting all the right signals. And you open your envelope and "the bid" is not to that fave.

For the girls that feel good about the second and even third on the list, no big deal.

But there can be some heartbreak in the surprise.

explains some of the #weirdcrying at pref.

a house down listing a pnm after pref because they fear she may go somewhere else does not make sense to me. So long as the pnm puts them first, they will match. If they are afraid and put her lower, then the house may fill up first -- and they lost her anyway. So if they wanted her enough for pref and really do want her, it makes no sense to down list her on the bid lists. If she is a legacy, she does on the first list. If she is not, she should be put as high after the legacies as possible. Am I missing something?

Attention PNMs: this is why "bid promising" is so bad. First, nobody can promise you how the process will work out with the matching (unless they are like the rush chair). Second, the actives that are likely foolish enough to bid promise have no idea where the recruitment team and advisors will place you on the lists. They may know the house wants you and will probably take you to pref, but they don't know how many legacies will be carried to pref and stuff like that. So these girls may be honest in their view of you and not trying to mislead you. They just are not in a position to assure anything for certain.

That explains one having only 130. Which was it? Truly can't recall.

It was DDD with 138. Quota was 146.

helpful.

LOL bid lists are not in alphabetical order they're in rank of preference. So AXO's number 1 is Patty PNM Yelnats. They're gonna go to Patty Yelnat's list and see if she ranked AXO first. If so, it's a match. If not, they go back to her later.

It gets pretty complicated but yeah in my house we all see the bid list on pref night as a part of the way we do selection. However I don't know any girls who make a point to look for the placement of certain girls because it's not actually three bid lists, it's just one long list where every girl who attended our pref is ranked 1-whatever. It might be different in a stronger recruiting chapter (where a sister may fight for a pnm to be higher on the list) but we're on the weaker end and just kind of make sure our favorites are somewhere at least near the middle before calling it a night lol

However in my house we also vote to "trust the committee" so they can also make changes to the bid list after we leave and that's that

Each house has their own method. When you get in a house, if you get in a house, you will know after you go through it for the first time as an active. There is nothing that a pnm can do to affect her recruitment by knowing a house's process.

Each and every NPC sorority has an individual, private recruitment and bid system. You as a PNM will never know which specific house has what type of system(s) until you become initiated into ONE home, and then you will learn only that ONE home's systems.

Hk's post is not the be-all and end-all of information a pnm needs for recruitment success. It may not even be correct for ANY house. All it is is a guess based from other anonymous postings, any and all of which may be incorrect.

No, this is pretty much true for every house. You don't need to be besties for them to be pulling for you, or even friends before rush, but someone needs to be pulling for you