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panhellenic cares about it ;)

I completely understand that girls have different interests and priorities... Some girls come here and are really serious about their academics and thus want to join a sorority that holds those same values while some girls aren't as focused about their grades and want leeway to be very socially active. Regardless of PNMs' priorities, a sorority should always push their girls to be the best versions of themselves. No sorority should let girls push academics to the side just because they like to party. The social aspect of college is important, but there's still so much more than that. College is a time for also bettering yourself as a person and preparing yourself for the future... Unless your goal is to become a stripper then prioritizing partying is only hurting you.

What really gets me mad about these posts is that the list of FRATERNITIES with gpa's below 3.00 is quite long!

NOBODY EVER posts here that we should be concerned that these houses are party focused with their members likely to become male dancers!

So @HM, go spend some time reflecting on the poor state of the men related to academic work and success. And give some credit to the girls! Even the lowest grade averages are "respectable".

Table your hate.

But our school is letting people in with grades that will only allow them to rush certain houses. If they come here and they are already automatically excluded from certain houses because their high school gpa was lower than what a house takes, then they only have certain options anyway. And how does someone else's GPA impact you? If their average was 2.9 that means there were plenty of girls who got over that. Most of the girls in Alpha Phi are from the north and the north doesn't think much of an Alabama degree anyway. They will graduate and go back home with a college degree. Worry about yourself and leave Alpha Phi alone. Sounds like they're doing just fine.

You're acting like we're at Yale or something. A lot of people come here to party, especially from out of state. We're literally a safety school for a lot of people outside of Alabama, and we're definitely seen as a party school by people up north. So HOW is it that surprising to you that some girls (especially out of state girls) prioritize partying over grades? They wouldn't be here if they kept their nose in a book all the time in high school. You can't expect to hype up our Greek life and football and then somehow think all girls are coming here for academic reasons. No girl from Massachusetts or New Jersey is going to be like "wow I really think Alabama is such a prestigious university and they're renowned for their academics, I would pick them over NYU, Michigan, or even Ivy Leagues!" A lot of them literally end up here because they weren't star students in high school and they figure if they have to go to a less prestigious school, it might as well be one where they're going to be able to have a great time.

PNMs are not "automatically excluded" from some sororities because of grades. I can guarantee that some of grade floors have a lot of give to them when a super-duper legacy comes along, or some other PNM who they must take.
And that's fine. Sororities SHOULD be flexible in who they accept. It's their choice and nobody else's.

It is a fact that in an attempt to raise the academic profile of Bama that the University throws a ton of $$ at even moderately intelligent out of state students -- because even a modest 28 on the ACT gets a big ole scholarship for out of staters. Do you hicks actually believe that a 3.5 in an Alabama high school is the same as one in a NY, MA, NJ or CT high school where the state education standards are much higher to begin with ? What's the admission criteria for Alabama in-state students, a pulse? So stop acting like "grades" at Bama are the same as up
North or at Vandy, or Duke. You maw maws hate the pretty Alpha Phi's and the grades talk is just a distraction.

lol but athletes have talent and something they are contributing to the school. Being an airhead sorority girl isnt doing much for anyone besides paying dues

So now you're bashing the entire student body PLUS all the alumni?
Well....aren't we special?

"Grades matter most in the girls I like." Said no frat boy ever.

No, I'm saying that some of these people need to get off their high horses about grades. Alabama isn't some Ivy League, or even a top public school when it comes to academics. We all know this. So for some of these girls to think they're so above everyone else because of their GPA here is laughable. Employers aren't going to have their minds blown by any GPA at Alabama, or an Alabama degree in general. Like someone else said, this isn't Yale. They're going to ask you more about internships, work experience, how you got involved on campus, etc. Just saying.