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Some light on the mid frats

by: TheInformer

After the sammy post, thought I would shed some light on the 4 mid frats which I guess are now being referred to as the Core 4 of the Mid Tier amongst fraternities at Cornell.
Probably will have anywhere from 100-150 guys checking them out, higher end for Pike, PiKapp, lower end for Phi Tau, PSK. All of them generally have good relations with low mid srats (AXO, AEPhi, KD). Pike and PiKapp have stronger relations with DDD, AxiD, and Pi Phi although Phi Tau and PSK can generally also get a few DDD and AXiD mixers with Pi Phi limited to multis or none at all. Generally more packed in second contacts as dudes who get cut from upper and upper mid houses because they did not fit there come over and try their luck here. Reccomend rushing all 4 if u rush mid.

Pike: very sporty house, has a lot of club rugby kids with a few other sports interspread. Largest house in the tier but that is also due to the fact they also go to bid for numbers instead of focusing on quality. Quite normal of them to drop 30+ bids to amass a massive pledge class. Worked for PC19 when they got 26 but did not work last year. Frattiest/Rowdiest of the tier along with PiKapp. On the most part, cool guys but get brought down a bit by the fact that they bid some guys for the numbers which leads to a weaker brohood. Strongest class is by far their juniors. Generally the strongest relations of the tier.

PiKapp - most stagnant frat of this tier. Literally has not moved from the position it was in 10 years ago. Good or bad thing depending on how you look at it. Also bids a lot of guys but not as much as Pike. Generally very rowdy and fratty as well. Has very strong relations with AXiD and gets them for every big event (slope day, homecoming etc). Good group of guys, but in general gets lifted up a lot by their seniors as their recent classes have not been as good compared to them.

Phi Tau - very wholesome, very sweet, soft chill group of guys. Probably the best phi tau has ever been on campus as they were a lower/bottom frat 10 years ago but have really stuck to their brand of being soft chillers and have moved up the ranks since. Opts to give fewer bids e.g 25ish and takes smaller classes of 13-18 but in turn probably has the closest and least divided brotherhood of the tier. Very large (20+) and a very good senior class that is graduating so that might change. Known to be a very safe and nice house to sororities. But do not throwdown that hard and are seen as kinda boring if truth be told. But all the same have good sorority relations.

PSK- similar to phi tau very nice guys in this house. Had a lot of trouble over the past few years with SoPro and hazing issues. But rebounded with a good spring class, largest of the tier taking top rushes from Phi Tau and Pike. Can be seen as the middleground between Pike/PiKapp and Phi Tau as they are nice and not hella fratty but still throwdown quite hard. SoPro has taken a toll on them however as they once used to be upper mid back in 2015. All the same good house with strong relations with low mid and mid tier srats. Current sophomores are probably their best class.

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#1  by: good job   
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this is going to be an important post because the majority of freshmen wondering "can I get into SigChi without dirty-rushing" is probably going to end up in one of these houses lmfao

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by: ^^Jan 16, 2021 2:50:18 PM

Would add tho freshmen who're legitimately cool guys who don't make it to top houses can try their luck at houses like ChiPhi, TDX and Lambda. They're less selective than top, bit more selective than mid, and generally have better srat relations.

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by: kkkkkasJan 16, 2021 2:53:34 PM

Only thing is those houses will basically auto ding you if you did not get a first contact and showed up for second contact round. They are not really "fallback" options" like the mid ones are. You need to rush them well in first contacts as well.

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by: good jobJan 16, 2021 3:01:59 PM

^ Yup, important for freshmen to know that upper-mid houses like Lambda & TDX are not "backups"- if you didn't show up on the first day & get a contact (ie- an invination to keep showing up), you are auto-dinged (not getting a bid)

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by: yeahJan 16, 2021 3:04:48 PM

Even the mid houses probably won’t bid you if you show up the day before second contacts bc you wanted to rush upper houses and got cut

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by: lmaoJan 16, 2021 3:09:25 PM

No excuse for freshmen to not rush every house they vibe with this semester cuz rush is online so no scheduling overlaps.
Simple guide:
If you're looking for a rowdy/fratty house, rush everything that fits that vibe (SX, DU, AD, ChiPhi, ChiPsi, Lambda, TDX, Pike, PiKapp). If you're looking for a soft/chiller house, rush everything (SigPhi, SigPi, DX, PhiTau, and PSK). This way you'll very likely get a bid at at least one house you vibe with.

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by: lykykJan 16, 2021 3:36:22 PM

word rush everywhere and as many places as you can, give yourself the options that you normally do not get in person rush

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by: safetyFeb 15, 2021 5:23:33 PM

would not risk losing out on these ones, rush is gonna be really different this year

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#2  by: Lovethis   
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great work, this is very solid, accurate info on each house. Would simply add on that all these houses have quality guys so definitely rush them along with any higher houses you rush.

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#3  by: lksdk   
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at least greekrank finally has some quality content that freshman can use to rush without parties this semester.

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#4  by: lykyk   
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Bump, cant let this post drop

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#5  by: lyk   
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bumpp

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#6  by: addons   
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Interesting notes on best classes for each house in these descriptions. From what I know about these frats and their respective reps, Pikes Juniors and Phi Tau seniors are probably tied for the best class of this tier (both 23+ and quality guys). Along with Pi Kapp seniors, probably borderline upper mid and mid.

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by: lolJan 16, 2021 4:30:57 PM

would not say any of them are borderline upper mid but those three classes are all p strong for typical mid tier classes.

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by: @opJan 16, 2021 7:39:02 PM

Tbh if you were really ranking their classes, it would be as so:
Pike Juniors | Phi Tau Seniors
Pi Kapp Seniors | PSK Sophomores | Pike Sophomores

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by: noJan 16, 2021 7:53:39 PM

Pike sophomore class is smaller and worse quality than PSK sophomores and definitely aren’t on the same tier as PiKapp seniors. Other info is right tho

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by: llllllllllllllllJan 17, 2021 10:46:56 AM

Tbh not even sure about PSK sophomores, they bid some weird guys to fill it out.

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by: YupJan 19, 2021 6:44:13 PM

^Pike and PhiTau got quality sophomores
PSK’s sophomores are a mixed bag
PiKapp’s sophomores were pretty bad

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by: ^Jan 19, 2021 6:47:35 PM

Lmao Phi Tau self rank. 9 likes on that comment in two minutes. Phi Tau you got the worst PC of the mid houses last year.

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#7  by: f   
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What’s the pledging like at these houses?

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by: DwJan 16, 2021 6:48:08 PM

Not very intense

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by: in the knowJan 16, 2021 6:54:03 PM

PSK is above average (remnant hazing from their upper mid days) , PhiTau and Pike effectively have no pledging, and PiKapp is below average.

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by: ^Jan 16, 2021 7:06:10 PM

Phi Tau pretty much has no pledging, pike a little but not really. PiKapp and PSK have pledging and I think worse at PSK.

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#8  by: pledgemaster   
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solid

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#9  by: ;;   
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bumpp

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by: YupJan 19, 2021 7:03:54 PM

Bump.

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#10  by: Amakak   
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P solid work

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