sisterhood

Half of the sisters hate each other and only joined because they have a house...

A.) Everyone in that house gets along pretty well. There are different groups, sure, but the only hate that goes on is directed at like two specific sisters.
B.) How do you know people joined for the house? Did they tell you that? I’m guessing not. Most the girls I’ve met joined for the diversity. They actually ended up having a few girls drop because of the house.

Yes I have several friends in DPhiE who are younger than me and they told me that

Pretty sure you’re lying, but just because your friends said that doesn’t mean anyone else in the house is that way. You said half the chapter joined just for the house and I don’t think you’re friends with that many girls. Sorry you have to slam their sisterhood to feel better about yourself.

sorry if girls joined it just for the house, wouldn’t they have picked a chapter that doesn’t get consistently shat on?

This. If their senior class is really small, lots of girls dropped along the way. Now that in most chapters only the sophomores and certain officers have to live in the house, dropping out should have kind of fallen off. In closer chapters it has.

When my mom was at IU, everyone was required to live in except a handful of seniors. The houses slept over 100 in cold dorms. I would have hated that. Now most of the houses have remodeled and have sleep in rooms and sleep much fewer women and quota is larger (50-55). Pledge classes were much smaller then sometimes 30-35 women. So there was room for everyone to live in.

Okay, so I looked at this comparing Spring 2017 to Spring 2018. The 5 chapters with the biggest drop in #s were:

Phi Mu (down 76)
AEPhi (down 76)
Sig Kap (down 65)
A Chi O (down 63)
Gamma Phi Beta (down 62)

This would tell me that these chapters are having issues with sisterhood because so many people are dropping. I get that some seniors are going to drop when they turn 21 due to financial stuff or a shifting focus toward job search, etc that makes them not want to attend mandatory stuff. But, these numbers are well above average and are concerning. Am I wrong?

Don’t forget many girls also go abroad spring semester. These chapters may just have a lot more girls that go abroad than other chapters. This is not necesarily because girls are dropping. I am in one of the chapters listed as the biggest drop rate and we only had one senior drop. We do, however, lose over half of our junior class because they went abroad last spring and are not counted in the grade report. Please keep this in mind when looking at these statistics.

Okay, taking that into consideration it still shows a decline in chapter size.

Phi Mu (down 76) (number counted for grades shows 76 fewer and then 3 additional were abroad/student teaching etc) #s were 185 (2017), 109 (2018) then 106 for grade calculations. These drops were not all because of studying abroad. The numbers are shown as net chapter size before grade calculations. So, if you counted the numbers with the study abroad members, it would be a net decline of 79 (185 less 106).

AEPhi (down 76) (number counted for grades shows 53 more were abroad, so really 129 less when adding those also)
Sig Kap (down 65) (number counted for grades shows 3 more were abroad, so really 68 less)
A Chi O (down 63) (number counted for grades shows 18 more were abroad, so really 81 less)
Gamma Phi Beta (down 62) (number counted for grades shows 27 more were abroad, so really 89 less)

I get that some people will study abroad or student teach, etc but the fact is the numbers shown originally are net decline from year to year which does concern me.

don't forget to take in account that some may drop due to finances or other priorities and commitments

That's an awful lot of people (76 in one chapter) that suddenly decide they can't afford to be a member. Something else seems to be happening.
Were quotas that much lower between 2017 and 2018??

Those numbers are not accurate, I can tell you because I am in one of the chapters. Spring 2017 to Spring 2018, are you taking into account students who graduated? Graduated in 4.5 years? Graduated in 3.5 years due to dual credit and AP? Or transferred to a school closer to home? Or transferred because they did not get into a particular program?

NO chapter at IU lost 76 or 62 women just to drops. There were graduates, transfers, leaves of absence not involved study abroad. My chapter had four women graduate in December of this year. We have a handful of women who leave in December and do their final semester of student teaching in their home area every year. I promise you 70+ women did not disappear from any chapter at IU. The highest number of drops I have ever heard of in one semester was 20+ and that was ZTA after the Little 500 incident a few years back.

I agree that the number seems really high. I would think that SLL's report is taken at the same time every year so that there would be consistency in the trends you mentioned (early graduation, student teaching, transfers, etc) If the report from spring 2017 and spring 2018 are both taken at the same time (beginning or end of the semester) all of that should be accounted for. Perhaps there is something off with their reporting method.

I know a few ASA woman and they all seem to actually care about each other.