Shhh it show rushing

Did you read what she wrote? What are you trying to say? If she doesn't get a bid from her top two, she cannot get any from the other three.

I think Wat is talking about round 3 to pref. The drop from pref to bid day has always been that way… if you aren’t high enough on either houses list you don’t get a house. You can only get a bid if you go to the house for pref - it usually works out in the end.

@Duh, it's clear what she wrote but you on the other hand are talking in riddles. Please clarify for us beginners.

@Q, example: if a house is allowed to take 100 girls in the member class - The houses rank the girls from 1-100 and have a fall back list that is also ranked (101-200, etc.). When the pnms rank the houses if they fall in the first 1-100 house list, they will get a bid from that house IF they also put them #1. PNMs have first choice, so if a girl is at the top of the bid list at both her pref houses, she ends up at her number one choice. It is how the houses rank pnms and how pnms rank houses. Another example would be if a pnm is low on her #1 choice list (house A) but high on her #2 house (house B) list. If house A only has to reach pnm #120, anyone ranked 121+ on house As list will not get a bid. That same pnm will only get a bid from house B, if they are ranked high enough by the same logic. If the pnm is low on both list they may not get a house.

@Q, what is the other option? You get a bid from house that you didn’t pref at? If you aren’t preffing at a house it is because the house cut you or you cut them. It is about the choices YOU make. Would it be fair to accept a bid at a house you didn’t go to pref at as you would take a spot away from a girl who did pref there? This is why your ranking matters. It isn’t a moronic process, it is the most fair process.

She preferred all five. Just like you would do when you go on five job interviews and like all five companies. If all five companies want you then you have five choices - simple.

Q is an idiot.

Stop saying this. Every PNM is guaranteed a bid if they rank both houses.

This must be the most idiotic post of the decade.It's the process that stinks not the sorority.

Rushing, that was kinda lame excuse. Are you the one who is in charge of this mess?

This is how every schools rush works. You don’t have unlimited options to get a house, they have to like you, and you have to like them. That’s why you have the pref round - houses need to narrow down the number of pnms. If you were allowed to get a bid from a house you didn’t pref at you would screw over girls who did pref there due to a quota. The way it works now is so most people end up somewhere and not without a house at all.

So, all the schools processes are stupid.

She likes all 5 and they all may like her too, but she doesn't have access to all of them. Only 2.

Hey Sis you are being very defensive.

So this is how it has been working all week. From all 18 houses, to the next round of a max of 13, then to a max of 8, then to 2 at pref. Most pnm's have not had a full schedule each round. That is normal. The algorithm has been using a combination of the sororities' required releases (first priority) with the pnm's ranks (secondary priority). Questions?

Dear Admin, the original poster said the following: "I was left with 5 choices and now they want top 2? If those don’t want me tomorrow, and the other 3 do, I cannot get a bid from them". Simple question, is she correct?

@Re, no she is incorrect. If you go to prefs tomorrow you will get one of the two houses you pref at.

Nice try but she picks top 2 houses tonight and doesn't get invited back tomorrow to either. She will not get a chance for the other three.

Yeah I'm not an admin, I just know what I'm talking about. The answer is no, she is NOT correct. She is ranking her remaining 5 houses for the pref round to go down to 2 houses. So if her top two want her back she's going to those two. If only one of them wants her back, then she will get that one, plus the algorithm will look at her other 3 houses and if any of those want her back she will get one of those back as well, based on how she ranked them. Same goes if neither of her top 2 want her back, the algorithm will try to get two houses for her from those remaining three. Some pnm's only get back one house for pref. Put that house on your MRABA card and you get a bid, 100%!

@Re, YOU ARE INCORRECT. JUST AS YOUVE BEEN RANKING HOUSES THIS WHOLE TIME YOU WILL CONTINUE TO RANK HOUSES. IT ISNT YOUR TOP TWO AFTER ROUND 3 OR NOTHING… y’all aren’t listening.

WTF is correct. Some people are hard to help.

Hey WTF, WTF are you yelling about? Do you believe that makes you more believable? The original poster said they are asking for only her top two choices from the five. If that is correct, then the other three are not ranked. and if the two decide not to take her then what happens to her bid chances?

@Re, the poster said she liked all 5 of her houses. You don’t just rank your 1 and 2. You rank 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 tonight. You then can be invited back to pref at 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 tomorrow depending on how high those houses rank you, but only 2 out of the 5. You don’t get cut from the process if you don’t get invited back to your 1 and 2 choices. You still have house 3, 4, and 5 as options for pref round. Just as you’ve been ranking the entire process, you still rank tonight. AFTER pref round, you can only rank your top 2 choices for bids. If you go to pref at 2 houses you will end up at one of the houses as long as you rank them both.

@Re the OP does not have to only choose 2 houses, she is RANKING all 5 houses. 1-2-3-4-5 in order of how she likes them. She will get 1 and 2 back for pref if they want her back too. But, if one or both of those drops her, then she would get one or two of those other houses that she ranked 3, 4, or 5.

What's happening behind the scenes? RFM is happening. Before the RFM system was in place there was unfairness to sororities and pnm's alike and tons of really amazing girls got dropped that were actually wanted, and great sororities ended up closing. It was sad, really. Ask anyone who was around then about cross cutting. So many more PNM's get a bid now and end up loving the house they get and sorority membership is larger than it has ever been. But trolls still hate us.

RFM completely changed the rush process for the lower tiers, it grew the membership tremendously and is thus beneficial to Greek life in general. No one wanted to be in a house with 20 members in the old days

There are no cuts at pref. Quota Plus makes sure no one is left out who went to pref and ranked her houses. Only way to be without a bid at pref is to not put down both houses. If a pnm doesn't match with that one house then she can't be placed as a quota addition.

How wrong you are. Best process? Bhahahahahahaha!

Go away geed. Obviously you have no idea how the system of release figures management works.

The synopsis of this thread is that
1) the OP, @Freshman, is mistaken about how the next round works,
2) a commenter, @Q, who is not associated with a sorority at all, is mistaken about how any of this works,
3) other people with their own agendas, not associated with a sorority, are piling on and believing that these mistaken things are true,
4) alumnae are mistaken about how bid matching works these days with Quota Plus,
5) other people are misusing the word 'pref', which in sorority speak only refers to the very last round of two parties, called Preference Parties, and does not refer to a PNM's particular degree of liking each sorority,
6) people who actually know what they are talking about but can't be heard over the ignorant mob.
I think that's about right.

This 100% correct and exactly what I explained and the downvotes are from a bunch of really screwed up people.

Now that makes sense.

And how do the lower tier houses get quota? That was rhetorical, we know how. They are placed into the two final prefs and always seem to be the one that gives you a bid.

NOT TRUE. SHE WILL GET A BID FROM ONE OF THOSE TWO, 100% GUARANTEED, IF SHE RANKS BOTH OF THEM. IF SHE ONLY GETS ONE HOUSE BACK AND SHE PUT THAT ONE ON HER CARD SHE IS GETTING THAT BID, 100% GUARANTEED. THE ONLY WAY TO NOT GET A BID IS TO SIP.

Why are you speaking to God?

@Lol, Greek life does a lot to help people. They have raised more money for charity and probably do more to help sick kids, get involved, help the university more than you are. Instead of writing bs online, go out and help people - all you are doing here is proving what a pos you are.