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real retention rates and sorority size

by: Facts

Miami University Sorority Life Semester Community Report for last semester /Spring 2018 is out.
Instead of listening to the false claims about a sorority’s retention, here are the actual numbers.

1st place - Kappa Delta currently has 222 total members
2nd place - Kappa Alpha Theta currently has 221 total members
3rd place - Kappa Kappa Gamma currently has 220 total members
4th place - Alpha Delta Pi currently has 216 total members
5th place - Gamma Phi Beta currently has 212 total members
6th place Tie - Alpha Chi Omega currently has 209 total members
6th place Tie - Delta Gamma currently has 209 total members
6th place Tie - Phi Mu currently has 209 total members
7th place - Zeta Tau Alpha currently has 208 total members
8th place Tie- Alpha Phi currently has 206 total members
8th place Tie - Delta Delta Delta currently has 206 total members
9th place - Chi Omega currently has 205 total members
10th place Alpha Omicron Pi currently has 202 total members
11th place - Delta Zeta currently has 174 total members
12th place - Phi Sigma Sigma currently has 115 total members
13th place - Alpha Epsilon Phi currently has 30 total members

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#1  by: Yes   
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Freshman... take note. The numbers don’t lie.

By: Yes
by: HelloJan 22, 2019 7:28:15 AM

If your rushing, these numbers matter! Each sorority at Miami is trying to stay at about 200 members.
You can totally tell who is succeeding and which chapters are having issues retaining girls.
Girls drop because they are not satisfied...... socially (lame parties and lack of mixers); sisterhood (backstabbing vs supportive friends); and networking (everyone at Miami is looking for the connections and if your sorority doesn’t support you moving ahead with school, study abroad opps, internships and career... why stay?)

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by: Wait Jan 26, 2019 4:56:14 AM

Retention numbers matter because it tells you who is dropping out of which sorority. The lower the numbers means the higher number of pledges AND actives that have dropped! Girls typically drop because of lack of sisterhood and support

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by: RedHotFeb 5, 2019 2:54:17 PM

Wow!! Look KAPPA IS 3rd PLACE ON THIS LIST BECAUSE THEY DIDNT MAKE QUOTA DURING RUSH LAST YEAR AND HAD TO DO INFORMAL RUSH TO GET GIRLS. Doesn’t it make you want to join them? NO???? Yeah, we are turned off too!!

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#2  by: 12th year   
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Keep in mind this doesn't take into the girls who drop junior/senior year who drop because they don't want to deal with the regulation and bs that sororities have/paying way more in dues

By: 12th year
by: Hello Aug 27, 2018 8:06:08 PM

You make no sense.
Actives’ rates are lower than new member dues. So sororities do not make you pay more after initiation, you actually pay less.

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#3  by: Confused   
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What happened to dz?

By: Confused
by: greekSep 8, 2018 9:25:25 PM

heard that lots of sisters drop after a year or so, stay for the parties but don't care about sisterhood/the sisters hate each other.

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#4  by: -   
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Total doesn’t take into account actual retention. Each PC varies in size

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by: YesOct 4, 2018 4:32:31 PM

Umm yeah.... it is the actual numbers for the Fall. After girls sign up as actives and everyone pays dues. Sororities will try for larger pc classes when too many actives drop out ....

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by: @YesFeb 6, 2019 8:18:46 PM

The OP's numbers are for SPRING 2018 and NOT Fall 2018. There will obviously be GRADUATES and DROPOUTS between SPRING and FALL.

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by: @-Feb 6, 2019 8:23:25 PM

True. Actual retention is the percentage of women who initiate after being bid. The Total Numbers posted here take no account of each home's actual bid number, which varies by house. The point of the post is to make false and mean comparisons between numbers that were never equal to begin with, which leads to false conclusions about the numbers as given.

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#5  by: Shar   
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Looks right

By: Shar
#6  by: Wait    
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So does every sorority try to keep above 200 in their chapter at Miami?

By: Wait
by: Yes Oct 4, 2018 4:35:01 PM

Yes, each chapter wants about 200 actives to keep their sorority relevant!

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#7  by: Yes   
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This doesn’t surprise me, KD has class and a sincere sisterhood!

By: Yes
#8  by: confused   
#8    

Why is DZ top tier if they can't retain girls?

By: confused
by: WellJan 28, 2019 4:21:27 PM

Girls want to rush for the letters once they are in they realize the sisterhood aspect is flawed

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by: SadJan 29, 2019 6:32:20 PM

I agree it’s unfortunate

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#9  by: ?   
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Serious question: Why does chapter size matter? Like, quality over quantity. I"m not saying you can't have both, because you absolutely can (Theta is a great example imo). But like... why does this matter?

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by: HappyOct 8, 2018 11:45:01 PM

You can totally tell which sororities girls drop because of:
behavior or probation or sisterhood or parties etc....
The retention numbers total = happiness and satisfaction scale

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by: MoOct 10, 2018 2:21:37 PM

Retention matters to me. I guess I look to pledging a sorority as investing. Investing in social and professional networks, life long friends and building bonds that will last a lifetime.

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by: Hi!Jan 29, 2019 5:46:18 PM

Retention rate matters because that means the girls that rush that sorority are more likely to be happy and stick with it !!!

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by: @Hi!Feb 6, 2019 8:27:12 PM

I'm going to guess you're an eager Chi Omega because of your posted name as it relates to your home's recruitment skits (which make use of the exclamation "HI!"). You are correct that retention rates matter, but the given numbers are NOT retention rate numbers. Sorry.

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#10  by: No   
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AEPhi is smaller at a lot of schools, because it fills a niche. Doesn't mean it's not a good chapter for the girls who want that specific experience.

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by: agreed!Feb 6, 2019 8:15:55 PM

Ditto

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