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Why are certain sororities only backed for HC Queen???????I couldn't believe who I was told to vote for.

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#11by: What happens ...   
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If you just vote for one of the other ones? Didn't Tri-Delt win last year? Do they just rotate?

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#12by: suggestion   
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If you don't like being told what to do, vote for the girl you think deserves it the most. Let the machine know that the days of fixed politics are over and that we don't have to have a machine to tell us what to do.

Just a thought...

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#13by: just saying   
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the girl greeks are voting for this year is truly a really awesome girl. she's super involved on campus and has basically put together her own philanthropy events after some really tough life events. she rocks so honestly you should just vote for her regardless of what you were told to do

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by: pnm   

And you would be a ... let me guess a PHI Mu?

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#14by: Just a thought   
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When was the last time a machine "backed" a sorority girl for SGA president? Seems to me like it has been years. They toss a bone to the girls and let them rotate Homecoming Queen among the backed houses. Sounds insulting to me, the sororities don't need the machine, the machine needs them. I think it is time for the sororities to work together and call their own shots.
Fire away............

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by: Turns   

Yes!
This should happen!

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#15by: Just curious   
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But how would the Machine even know who you voted for, or who didn't vote for their candidate? HC is campus wide voting, Machine can only control Greeks.

If people don't want the Machine around, then they need to stop doing the Machine's bidding. Simple as that.

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You send a screenshot of your voting confirmation to the machine rep of your house--if not, you get fined.

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by: 100% Correct   

@Active is 100% correct. The 13 sororities that are members of the Machine each have a "Machine representative" for their group. When you vote, you are required to send a screen shot of your voting confirmation to your group's Machine representative, who ensures that everyone voted "correctly". If you don't send the screen shot, you will be fined. So they know who votes against what the Machine asked them to do.

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by: ?   

And if you vote for someone else will you still get fined for going against the grain?

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do the members get fined? that has to be against their nationals' policies/bylaws/whatever. Someone needs to speak up. Or are they all just stupid sheep?

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#16by: Active    
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The people posting on this thread are either very oblivious freshman or people who don't go to Alabama. Let's get some facts straight.

1. Not every fraternity and sorority are in the machine.
2. the Phi Mu girl is not the "Greek backed" candidate. She is the machine backed candidate. That doesn't make her any less deserving of the title (I've heard she's an awesome person) but nevertheless, she is the machine's chosen candidate.
3. It has NEVER been a secret who the machine candidate is so I don't know why people are trying to "expose" the poor girl. Anyone with half a brain can look around and see that the majority of fraternities and sororities are backing her, so common sense makes her the machine candidate.
4. The title normally cirvles through old row. Last year, the machine candidate was a tri delt, the year before a KD, the year before an AGD, and the year before another Phi Mu. They all won.
5. Houses that are in the machine are required to vote for their candidate. They have to send in email confirmation to their machine representative or else they get fined.

If you dislike the machine, get out and vote! That's the only way for their candidate not to win. Until this past spring, their was no organized movement against them so all other competitors fell flat. But now, there's real resistance.

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by: If   

If the pm girl is so great she has been done a disservice by having the machine process involved. It tarnishes the achievement. To me, having machine backing should be the kiss of death rather than confirmation that you are the chosen one by politics. Sad. But if the machine did not run this, they would have to give the sororities things they want to keep in the old boys network.

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by: Active   

The machine doesn't contact a girl and say "you run and we will back you." This girl probably wanted to run anyway (and maybe expected the machine to back her, I don't know) but it's not like she called them up and asked them.

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#17by: duh   
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So even if you're in the machine and your sorority is not one of those mentioned you can never be put up for anything like HC queen? What are we? I'M sure the Phi Mu is a great girl but if she is people will vote for her based on her own merits not because they are ordered to do so. Why not a DG or ADPI or any of the others. Why does it circulate through the same ones? If all are in the machine, that would be a turn every what 12 or 13 yrs depending on the number of sororities in the machine.

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Because old row basically runs the machine. Yes, there are other houses in the machine, but they are treated like second class citizens.

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by: no way   

I don't believe this. We live in a democracy. To all theOTHER sororities what good does this do? and ya'll say you want to change the tier system . well if you want to come out of a hole you throw down the shovel. Quit digging trying to find a solution. All the rushes look at who had HC Queen, Corolla , etc. All the honors and now as I understand it you want to help another sorority no GIVE another sorority something that will enhance recruitment yet again for them. And a sorority who already has no humility. Are we suppose to be thankful for the few honors that come our way?

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Btw -- this is one way the old row sororities try to keep an edge. If a pnm wants to be homecoming queen at UA she needs to be in one of the older row houses it appears. So this gives those houses an advantage with really strong pnms that have such highschoolish ambitions (but then again, they are fresh out of high school). It is part of an embedded system. If you can't beat it, join it (s what the other houses must believe).

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#18by: OBVIOUS   
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From last year's SGA election, the Machine needs the sorority vote. BUT what do they get for it???? Homecoming Queen??? Come on girls, ORGANIZE. You have the numbers, so you have the votes. Time to stand up for yourselves!!

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#19by: Alumna   
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Time for the sororities to take over the Machine. Sororities have WAY more members than fraternities. Women should rule this campus, not men.

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by: Turns   

Absolutely!

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#20by: alumna    
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There a great girls in every sorority, and if it weren't for the machine every sorority would nominate a member for HoCo Queen an then entire greek community would divide their vote amongst up to 16 candidates. With this divide it is much more likely that a non-greek candidate wins because they get the majority of the non-greek vote since it is usually directed to one candidate. What the machine does is select whom they believe the most deserving candidate is, so the entire Greek community can rally behind her, vote for her, and ensure the HoCo Queen is a member of a sorority, creating positive press for the Greek community. They don't rotate the honor around (especially not just around Old Row-- in 2012 the Homecoming Queen was a DG), they just pick who they believe deserves it most. If you do your research you'll see that the girl they picked this year is so deserving and so involved, and she would make a great homecoming Queen.

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by: ?????   

For the last 10 yrs what sororities have had HC Queen?

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by: ?????   

What you mean they don't rotate it around? I'm sure every sorority has at least one awesome person deserving of this honor.

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by: Quit drinking   

Honey, quit drinking the koolaid!!!!!! YOU ALL HAVE THE NUMBERS! Organize, call your own shots. Stop letting a bunch of frat boys determine your future. The machine does not pick the most deserving candidate, it rotates ! Have they let you the SGA presidency rotate to you all, hell NO!!! BUT if you are happy being Homecoming Queen every 14 years, then you get what you deserve.

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by: Ok   

Since 2000 including this year, then:

KD 3
PM 3
Tridelt 2
AGD 2
Pi Phi 2
axo 1
xo1
aoii 1

Question is whether any of these were not machine backed.
Anybody know?


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by: dear alumna   

So, what's wrong with that? A greek girl doesn't HAVE to win every time. What's wrong with you???? Also, if a girl is as outstanding as you say the selection is this year, people would vote for her anyway. Right?

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by: Isay   

DG has never had a HC queen. I believe that girl was a DZ.

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by: no   

A DG has not been HC queen

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