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by: bummed out   

I am so confused about how cuts are made. I have well over the minimum gpa, I had all of my letters of rec, a lot of community involvement, and I felt the conversations went well at most of the houses I went back to, and I still got cut by all but one sorority. To top it off, I met someone who had lower than a 3.0 that was going back to one I was cut from. Does anyone know why this would happen or what other criteria they would use to make cuts? This whole experience has really made me feel bad about myself

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#1by: Listen   
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Are you still going to pref parties?
Or are you obsessing over a sorority that's no longer in the mix for you?
Grades, involvement, pleasant looks and manners...it's not personal. Sometimes the sorority needs New Members to fill in a certain area...more people from B'ham, less people; more from out of state, less from out of state; more artists, fewer athletes; more athletes, fewer musicians; more top GPAS, fewer education majors...it just depends.
Look at what you've got left, not at what cannot be.

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#2by: I feel the same   
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You are not alone in feeling this way. I know people mean well when they say be happy for what you have left, but it's really hard when it doesn't make sense when you see girls that received more or higher ranked houses. I feel I come across very well, I have a 3.4, a lot of community service, and recs. I feel that I'm what most consider to be a pretty girl. I have 2 houses left. Neither are a top choice. My self esteem is at an all time low. I hate even discussing my rush experience with my family and friends. I am from alabama so it's worse as far as the social pressure goes. When I tell discuss what houses cut me I feel so judged from friends/family. They all assumed I would get into much better houses. Let the bashing begin about how I feel entitled and special, etc. I'm just being honest.

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by: bummed out   

I'm from out of state and I don't want to talk about it with anyone. Nobody knows the pressure and competition here at Alabama. And I agree, I'm at an all-time low. I don't feel entitled, and I'm not trying to be in a top house, but I am just shocked that I was cut from so many especially when you talk to people that don't even meet the supposed "minimum requirement" of a 3.0 or are lacking rec letters. It really makes you wonder what they are looking for, and I can't help but think it is just based on they way you look. I worked so hard at getting all of my letters and making sure my resume was complete. I don't even think they are considering any of that.

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by: hh   

I have the same problem. 3.8 gpa, a laundry list of extracurriculars, all my recs, a double legacy, and even friends in some of the houses. I'm pretty, but I'm not drop dead gorgeous and those are the girls who are beating me. One girl in my group has a 2.9, no recs, and no personality at all. She has a full schedule every day and I'm barely getting by. She made fun of all the houses I got back without even realizing I had them. I wouldn't even tell her which ones I had bc she thinks they all suck:( I have no self esteem whatsoever right now. I've never felt like such a piece of crap in my life

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#3by: So   
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So do you just have one pref party or did u just carry one house all week?

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by: bummed out   

Just one pref party.

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#4by: Don't   
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My baby sister went through this last year, I went to a different college with a much smaller Rush. It is hard not to take it personally but, DON'T, over 2000 girls! Now that she knows all the sororities, it turns out she is in the house that is a perfect fit and her freshman year was the time of her life. Good Luck and stay positive!!!

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by: bummed out   

Thank you! I'm trying to stay positive. I'm still hoping I get a bid tomorrow.

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#5by: Sad   
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So many girls are feeling the same exact way that you are. My roommate and I sit in our rooms and literally cry every night!

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#6by: Same   
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I have friends that have already gone through rush at other schools, and I don't even want to look at their pictures! I'm so over it. I have 3 houses left, but none are houses I would have considered before rush. Kill me everyone, but I did feel that I was a better fit for other houses. People from other schools do not have a clue how difficult it is to go through rush here. The competition is like no other. I really feel my friends at other schools had it so much easier. I know it sounds stupid, but I have even considered transferring! Maybe it's just because I'm so worn down. Good luck!

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by: Grow Up...   

Quote: "...but I did feel that I was a better fit for other houses."

Guess what? They didn't. And that is their option.

At this point, you can try to get yourself together, and realize there are a bunch of other girls out there who are in your shoes. If all of you smart/attractive/involved/personable girls joined the houses that invited you back, those houses might be giving the chapters who cut you a run for the money in a couple of years.

The procedure in place REQUIRES each house cut a certain percentage of girls each round. Otherwise, things would be even worse (every single girl would get invited back to the few favorite houses until the very end, then things would be even worse).

Sorry if I am harsh, but if you are mature enough to take an opportunity many girls won't get at all, go for it.

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by: Stop!   

I get it! People are venting! Stop being so rude. We all understand the process. Being disappointed is a normal emotion when you don't get something you want. Calm down with the life lessons and let people express their emotions without being so critical. It actually helps to know others feel the same as I do. We all know nothing is going to change it and we all know they saw something in the others that they didn't see in us or we didn't fill a need or requirement for a particular house. We get it. Really we do. Just let us please express some frustration/disappointment without being judged any more than we already have been.

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by: dallas   

Thank you! Some people really are rude. I appreciate everyone's positive comments. And I'm sorry, but when someone is invited back to a house that doesn't meet the "minimum qualifications," it makes you wonder what they are really looking for.

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by: So…   

As someone who has experienced rush at another large very strong, southern school I don’t think Bama is particularly more brutal

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#7by: Go Back.   
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If that house invited you back, and if you have the great qualities you are pointing out, you have an opportunity to really excel in the house that invited you back. Take advantage of that opportunity.

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by: dallas   

Thank you! I am feeling much more positive now. I appreciate the good advice and positive responses from everyone.

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#8by: big girl panties    
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Don't want to come across harsh, but it probably will. There's an old song and the refrain goes like this.... You can't always get what you want. But if you try sometimes, you find, you get what you need.

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by: Hmmm.   

I don't really think this is harsh at all! If PNMs will give the houses a chance, they might find that they are just where they belong. The problem with Alabama's recruitment is the ridiculous amount of ranking that goes on. Everyone wants to see themselves in the "top" houses without realizing that every house is top to its members. Hang in there, and everything will turn out like it is supposed to.

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by: BGP   

Thank you. I do try to be kind hearted but have a low tolerance level for pity parties. I agree with you. I think someone "in charge" needs to work on this ranking business. Recruitment DOES NOT have to be cut throat. The attitude needs to shift to "one community" for the good of all. Then pmn's really wouldn't go into this whole experience biased. A leader sets the example and others will follow. I don't see this happening on this campus.

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#9by: Magic   
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Some people think the matching process is like falling in love. It isn't. There is no one house for you. Give the ladies in the other houses some credit for knowing what type of person would fit well with them. That's why they have invited you back. Feel good that someone sees so much in you to invite you back to pref night. I read a quote on another sight that said "bloom where God plants you". That may be something to think about when making your decisions.

By: Magic
#10by: invitations   
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To the girls feeling bad because someone who doesn't meet qualifications was invited back somewhere you weren't:

There are lots of reasons this might happen. The most usual reason is what our house calls a "courtesy invitation." It usually happens when some important person asks us to give special consideration to a PNM. We know she doesn't meet our requirements, but we don't want to cut her the first day so we keep her around, but never intend to give her a bid. That sounds harsh, I know, but it's done with love and respect to the person who asked for the special consideration.

It can also be because that person has a particular talent that we desperately need. For example, a girl with a brilliant singing voice who has a 2.98. Yes, that's below a 3.0, but we need a "voice" to replace the one who just graduated. We'd love to have one with a 3.5, but those girls cut us, so we have to make do.

Or maybe she's a legacy of one of our national officers. We don't want to lower our grade requirements, but we already have our "special permission" from nationals. So we have to.

I guarantee you, it's not that it's just slipped by us that you were better than someone else. Everything is taken into consideration and although sometimes it seems unfair, there's always a reason.

I know that won't make you feel better, but just know there wasn't anything else you could have done, and there wasn't any just random slip up that caused it to happen.

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