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curious about dz

by: Pnm   

Why does DZ have 100+ less members than all other NPC houses in campus? Seems unusual and they're getting a giant house. Will it be easier to get a bid there this recruitment?

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#1by: Well   
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They really struggled this past year. I’m not sure why, it just kind of happened. When I started they were a decent lower mid house. Could just be that things fluctuate year to year. Gamma phi finally getting out of dead last shook things up a lot at the bottom.

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#2by: Younger_thanU   
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Ugh no! Delta Zeta is one of the more selective NR houses the other is ADPi they have solid Southern alums.

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by: Guest   

Selective is definitely not a term i would use to describe DZ

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#3by: Nope   
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DZ tried to be selective since they have the new house and were tired of being bottom of the bottom. They thought they had no where to go but up. It didn't go as planned since they lost their top target OOS PNMs to GPhi and Theta who both had really strong recruitments. They ended up taking a lot less girls and they were not those at the top of their list. Then they had those that dropped and now they are at a real disadvantage. The house may help some but most PNMs will not be swayed and will realize that everyone has great houses so that is not an issue anymore.

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by: lmao   

theta had a strong recruitment? i have to laugh.

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by: hmm   

Commenter above is a little harsh in laughing, but i do question theta having a strong recruitment as well. I can honestly say that I did not talk to one person all rush week who was overwhelmingly excited about Theta. A majority of people were trying desperately to get them off of their cards.

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by: NR Active   

From what I've seen, Gamma Phi and Theta both got reasonably good pledge classes this past rush while DZ struggled and AOPi was kind of stagnate. Theta no doubt has been struggling in PNM interest over the past few years but I think they did well, or at least better, this past year. PNM's aren't jumping the gun on Theta but I think it's important to note that they're not necessarily doing that for the other lower ranked houses either. I'm a rising junior and a lot of my little's friends are Theta's and so I've been around their freshmen pledge class a handful of time this past school year. And I was honestly impressed by how many pretty and well put together freshman Theta's I've seen. I don't think Theta has ever really had a stellar rush but from what I've seen and heard they did well this year... I think having a rendering helped them somewhat and I think them rushing out of the stadium this year will help them even more.

And I don't understand why people have to be so snobby about when a lower ranked house is making progress. I like Theta and I admire their diversity even though it seems like a lot of people like to claim that as one of their faults.

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by: Y   

I agree some with#3. Theta took a huge pledge class. They got a lot of their higher ranked PNMs who historically go DZ and other NR houses but ranked Theta higher. Then they took their typical quality girls who are overlooked by traditionally southern houses. When looking at their pledge class, they took a much higher number of really solid, smart, pretty PNMs and they retained them. Those girls that DZ couldn't get went somewhere and with DZ having such a small return rate and Theta having such a large highlights the difference.

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#4by: NR Active   
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This past rush DZ changed their recruitment style... Instead of taking a large mix of girls which they usually do they took a smaller mix of girls who were more "one type." So for example, a regular DZ pledge class is mixed, you have OOS party girls with average grades, bookworms, quiet girls, and so forth. But last year DZ tried really hard to curate a pledge class that was comprised of mainly party girls. However, I use the term "party girl" loosely... DZ's "party girl" is much more toned down that say APhi/ZTA/KD/KKG.

The biggest goal with this tactic was to create a more concise pledge class. DZ has a lot of new girls drop and DZ figured a main reason was because the house is so split in terms of personalities. However this tactic failed. DZ's '17 pledge class was significantly smaller than what it usually is... I THINK they took around 120 girls when they usually take around 150? Not sure on exact numbers but you get the gist. Handfuls of new girls still dropped and DZ was left with a smaller than usual '17 pledge class which is a huge hit in terms of financing for their new house.

On top of that, a lot of actives tend to drop throughout the year... Not just with DZ but with a lot of NR houses. My roommate is actually a DZ and she dropped in the mid semester in the Fall.

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#5by: Pick   
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Aren't you the same "active" that identifies as a rising junior? You've really switched arguments and houses several times over a dozen post. Also, you write long and way too analytical replies in my opinion.

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#6by: H   
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My guess is that it was a strategic move (as people have noted above) to try and make their PC more cohesive and avoid quota additions who would either only have DZ for pref if they kept them or would be too low on other houses bid lists (I’m assuming quota additions are why Theta’s PC was giant)
I see the benefits of that plan, but I think it was an interesting choice because DZ barely had enough actives in the house to rush PNMs this year and I would think risking that happening again would be something they’d want to avoid. Especially because DZ (as with basically all the NR houses so no shade to them) has a decent chunk of girls drop each semester so imo they are not leaving themselves a lot of room for error when it comes to numbers

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#7by: Lol   
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Bumping just because DZ is obviously pissed about this post and writing negative posts about Theta and GPhi because of it

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#8by: kat love   
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Sending pan love to DZ! Hope your recruitment is great this year. Enjoy your new house!

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#9by: also   
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dz took a lot of spring pledges too

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by: T   

They always do, you can consistently count on them taking a large spring PC because they have retention issues

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