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by: #Concerned   

Only 7 Houses to go for Sisterhood and 2 Houses for Preference was this done to help out Sigma Kappa get some quality Freshmen girls? More than 150 girls got released last year & if they release more than that this year SK could recruit an impressive number. Grades are going to matter more than ever, right????

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#1by: yep   
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Yep Panhellenic raised the gpa cut off and some individual houses are raising theirs on top of that so there will definitely be more grade cuts this year

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by: ^   

Comment #2 is correct. Panhellenic cannot prevent anyone from rushing for GPA and if houses are raising their GPA requirements it's to do something about the ridiculously large new member classes.

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#2by: ?   
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1. I was told that Panhellenic can't restrict anyone from participating in recruitment which is why they don't have a cut off GPA, they just have GPA "recommendations."

2. Not all released PNMs will want to go to SK. And even if they did I'm sure SK would not want to take so many grade risks.

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Why would sigma kappa not want to take grade risks? They're a new house they start at the bottom just like everyone else. I understand not wanting to take someone with a 2.8 or below but the year a grade risk is considered 3.0 - 3.2 SK is going to have to show some leniency or they'll never get enough girls to establish themselves

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What I was trying to get at is SK will have to be very careful in curating their first pledge class. If they take a lot of grade risks they risk developing a reputation around that. Released PNMs are either released due to grades or reputation/being weird. If SK takes a majority of released PNMs they then also risk developing a reputation for being weird.

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#3by: You've got it all wrong   
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If you would read the countless threads about this you would see that national panhellenic is going to 2 prefs on every campus. Most schools have already been doing it. This will not mean more releases, just the same releases sooner in the process. Grade releases are up to each chapter, as always, and they happen mostly before philanthropy, not sisterhood. This all has nothing to do with SK. SK is going to be choosy when recruiting their colonizing class and will not take grade risk freshmen, but they will be looking hard for strong upperclassmen candidates who will bring maturity and leadership right away. This is one sorority for which being an upperclassmen will be strongly desired and for which legacy status will carry much more weight.

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Yes and you are absolutely correct about Sigma Kappa. They are going to struggle the hardest to get the best founding class for their first year. Nobody with tradition tied to Bama is going to want to go near them. And yeah NPC recommended the 2 instead of 3 because at most other colleges people rarely, if at all, got matched with third choice. Oh and another thing, trying to get the girls who are upperclassmen but didn't transfer pretty much know how expensive it is and don't want it.

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by: ^   

"Nobody with tradition tied to Bama is going to want to go near them."
Well, since Bama is mostly out of state now that's not a real liability for them. And without knowing how much SK dues are going to be in their first few years you can't say anything about who would want it or not.

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#4by: Panhellenic plan    
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Panhellenic is also removing the upperclassmen quota. Upperclassmen are grouped with the freshmen quota this year so upperclassmen will be dropped and go to SK. It will be hard for the upperclassmen to complete with freshmen who will be active for all 4 years. Sucks for you upperclassmen!

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by: ^   

Total BS. Upperclassmen quota still in place.

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by: Panhellenic plan    

Check your facts. Ask your rush chairs to find out and get back to us. No upperclassman quota this year because of SK!

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by: Really?   

What if I Am Not a Freshman and I Want to Participate in Recruitment?

Provided you are a full-time female student and have not been initiated into another NPC sorority at UA or on another campus, you can participate in formal recruitment. UA utilizes a separate quota for freshman and upperclassman, and a PNM’s classification is determined by their year of high school graduation. A Potential New Member, who graduated high school prior to December 2017, is considered an upperclassman. The Upperclass/Secondary Quota, which is a separate from the Freshman/Primary Quota is used to specifically place upperclassmen and transfer students. This dual-quota system gives ALL women participating in recruitment a greater opportunity to pledge a sorority.

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by: ASK YOUR REC CHAIRS!    

Panhellenic changed the rule unless the pressure got to them in the last 2 weeks. Ask your recruitment chairs to find out! Then let us know what they say!

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by: This   

I actually copied and pasted from the Panhellenic page on the UA website. This has been up for most of the year once they cleared out the 2017 items to be ready for the 2018 year. I would trust the website over the Greek Chic, as the website is more carefully curated than the Greek Chic ( which needed to be edited multiple times).

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by: This   

I am also a hometown lead for my house (OR). Regardless of what some are saying, if you are OOS, we would rather take a sophomore (or even a junior who changed majors and will be around for three years) with good grades and a good rep than a questionable freshman. With a sophomore, you know you’re getting a quality girl with good grades. With some freshman, especially far OOS with questionable social media or hometown presence, we would be worried that she might not make it past first year.

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by: Ok then...   

I’m not going to argue with you, but we’ll see who is right in August. It’s not ok to do this to the upperclassmen. I hope enough people speak up for them and get Panhellenic to add the quota back.

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#5by: Sad but true    
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Wish it was not that way but Panhellenic will do whatever they can to give a new sorority numbers. Wish Sigma Kappa started in the spring without messing with the upperclassmen quota number so there are no hard feelings. Let the dust settle and see what they get without cutting upperclassmen at the knees. Rude!

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#6by: X   
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Honestly whether or not it has to do with SK, Panhellenic trying to discourage girls with low gpas from rushing is a good thing in my eyes. I want to preface this by saying I have friends who had low high school gpas but are very successful and involved here at Alabama, but ~generally~ girls with very low high school GPAs will probably not have great college GPAs. I don’t think it’s fair to houses to have to take girls with lower GPAs than they would like because quota is so high and houses closer to the bottom do not have as much flexibility in who they’d like to cut, meaning they have to decide if they’ll take grade risks who are fun/ cute (Aphi, GPhi, DZ) or girls with better grades who might not excel in social skills or looks (Theta, DG, AOPi). If less low GPA girls rush it helps houses with lower GPAs and Panhellenic’s average GPA overall

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by: Yes   

Oh my God, this. Does my house want to take the grade risks? No, but when panhellenic tells us we can only cut X number of PNMs and there are more than double that who have below a 3.2, what the heck are we supposed to do??

I honestly think UA (and maybe ole miss, UGA, etc) is kind of an anomaly in the sorority world— if you look at grade reports from almost anywhere else you’ll see a lot of bottom houses at the top because the houses recruit mainly off of looks but here it’s totally different.

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#7by: Well   
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If it’s true, the only upperclassmen this will affect are the ones who didn’t put in the work to meet a ton of actives and make stellar grades. A lot of sophomore bids are friends of actives anyway, and those girls are getting in whether there’s an upperclassman quota or not.

In all honestly this will probably affect the freshmen more because they will be bumped off the bottom of the list for a sophomore whereas in the past sophomores were just extra.

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by: Transfers are SOL then?    

So the transfer students will be cut from recruitment to accommodate SK and everyone should accept that? Transfers were not on campus or even in town “to put in the work” to make friends. If SK isn’t going through a full recruiting schedule and bid day, Panhellenic should not drop the upperclassmen quota.

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by: Act   

If you really think all transfer girls will be dropped from rush just because we don’t have upperclassman quota this year idk what to tell you. Bottom and even some mid houses will not be cutting these girls if they have decent grades and resume, just like always. Trust me, I’m in one, and we would still prefer a qualified sophomore or even junior over a mediocre freshman.

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#8by: Best   
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SK should select and go for the GA, IN, and NJ girls first.

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