new ranks

could piddle with it by moving kd up and adpi down, but reality is they have very little oos pull. all the star girls they got were in-state. that is not impressive in this day and age. put based on popularity with pnms, I could see putting kd where adpi is in the OP and then adpi down one. Adpi is a great house but just does not compete in recruitment with the others yet. they do better than dg and the others though. they also do better than aphi in general.

But they don't do well with rush. They pledge primarily in state girls who were either dropped from the other OR houses or who don't have good resumes and just have in house connections. Lots of their pledges were also grade risks and/or had bad reputations.

And then they're not too involved. Not the best grades. And we all know by now they have an incredibly split sisterhood.

I'm not trying to hate on KD. Do they get some great girls? Yes. But no more than some of the lower ranked houses. And all the stuff they're going through right now has opened people's eyes to the fact that the only thing keeping them up is their OR "status."

alpha phi, dg, gamma phi, and theta are all lower ranked houses.

One good pledge class does not make DDD top. They've been meh for years.

One good pledge class does not make up for the fact that they have been average at best for the past several years.

You seem to reside quite comfortably in a time about 5 or 6 years ago. APhi is certainly not lower tier, and GPhi is making great strides. I no longer believe them to be bottom. I feel they are equal to DG

Yeah it's obvious some old lady wrote that.

This year GPB did better than DG and that's just the truth.

very true that agd has painted itself into a corner with oos. they can still do okay in-state (although their ability to do so is in question given they could not even get good girls from their traditional stronghold in bhm) but their oos pull is woeful. hard to be considered a top tier house if you can't pull oos in a school that has mostly oos going through rush. only way to do that is if you are biased in favor of instate.

I partially agree with you but I also think AGD has really good grades, surprisingly high retention, and really good involvement in some specific areas of campus. Meanwhile what does ZTA have besides pulling really attractive OOS girls? We still don't know how their new PC is going to shake out in terms of grades/reputation and their older PCs are NOT well-liked or well-regarded.

I can definitely see PBP being a tier above AGD. But ZTA and AGD are at the same level... just completely different vibes.

Agd has better grades than pbp and zeta and new row should be zta alpha phi pbp

Grades are one of many indicators of something and a point of pride (or a weapon against), but honestly most pnms don't give a rip about a house's gpa.

On zeta, and I am not One, they have a lot of major involvement in the performance space (dance team, crimsonette s) and in other things like chaarg, things around advertising and broadcast, athletic recruiting, and fitness yoga etc. So they are out there. Be fair

okay zeta has dancers and cheerleaders. cool. if that's all the involvement they have then you need to take a step back and reevaluate your life. does zeta have girls in various organizations on campus? yes. but the "more involved" houses have higher amounts of girls in higher amount of various organizations... girls who aren't just in a club for their resume but girls who are actually starting clubs and fundraisers.

also zeta's grades are like second to last. poor sisterhood too.

Hate all you want on zeta. It only has made them stronger and they are on the rise big time. You can belittle all you want and it does not change that. I think the post above said they are in leadership in all kinds of places. Not just on dance and cheer. They are all over Dance Alabama, the theatre groups, the fitness orgs, etc. so when you paint with such a broad and dismissive brush you show yourself to be a hater or a troll or both-- all without credibility and obviously without having adverse effects on their recruitment results. And for oos they are above KD and agd.

okay but what about grades? involvement? sisterhood? you can't rank based on looks because that's subjective. yes, all the lower ranked houses actually do have lots of pretty girls. but what's beyond that???

that being said, i don't feel like dg and theta are similar to the other lower ranked houses. theta has good grades and they both are super involved.

so whats your support for gphi, aopi, dz, and aphi being ranked the same and/or higher?

I know ADPi and DG have a lot of girls in SGA. That's a big deal on campus, and that gives them more pull and a higher rank.

GPHI is bottom though

Outdated rank - they've really moved up with the new house

- KKG and DDD are basically on the same playing field.

- Theta has better grades and involvement than AOPi

- AGD has better grades and involvement over PBP

AGD is not over PBP when you look at the totality of he glass. PBP does not take mercy pledges based on mom games. So many AGD girls would be AOII if not for an inside game favoring certain girls from certain areas. AGD had a great rush chair and an involved (in recruiting) president and they still could not land the main targets. OOS girls don't give a rip about them. PBP is much more relevant to OOS and has truly passed AGD from an overall and not in-state myopic perspective. ZTA prob has too. AGD has not had a good PC since PC14 (their seniors this year).