rush makes little difference
by: Truth
It's a formality for most sororities. They make lists ahead of time based on who their 300+ members already know. Recs are also a required formality.
95% of PNMs selected. Heavy legacy numbers here too and even many of them get cut.
If you're OOS, especially FAR OOS, you're at an extreme disadvantage. There's NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU. They just DON'T KNOW YOU. Truth.
#1by: The real "truth"
Since last year a little less than 25% of bids went to in-state pnms and a little more than 75% of bids went to oos pnms, you need to check your facts.
"What was the Profile of the 2016 Sorority Recruitment Applicant Pool?
For fall 2016, a record 2,875 women registered for formal recruitment and 2,669 women participated in the first round of recruitment known as Open House. Of those women in the Open House Pool, 643 were from Alabama and 2,040 were from Out-of-State. Of the 2,669 women in the Open House Pool, 201 women did not complete the process, of which 85 withdrew, 102 were released and 14 participated in bid matching, but did NOT maximize their options. Of the 2,489 women receiving bids, 609 were from Alabama and 1,879 were from Out-of-State (45 states and 8 international countries), for an overall Open House Pool Match rate of 93%. The National average for women receiving a bid during formal recruitment is 79% of the Open House Pool."
Comment#2by: ^^
@iffy logic: 2,489 received bids / 609 in-state = 24.5%
I don't understand how, as the OOS % continues to grow, that pledge classes are supposedly pre-selected. There just aren't enough in-state (or local) girls to choose from.
The in-state pool inside the sorority is shrinking while the in-state pool of PNMs is also shrinking. Sounds to me like this is old school logic and there is PLENTY of space for OOS girls in every sorority.
by: ...
There may be plenty of space for OOS girls but OOS girls from outside the southern ring of acceptablity (Texas, GA, TN, LA, SC, and some areas of FL) are not even given the chance. They are released before it even begins and everyone inside knows that is the case for most of the houses.
The houses ranked lower are the ones filled with these far OOS girls and it doesn't matter that the house gpa is great or that the house wins awards, or that it has a great sisterhood, they are considered lower because they take the girls that the others deem not worthy. In reality out on campus these are the girls making things happen and making UA great. These are the girls who will move to all corners of the US and world and promote UA in a positive light. These are the girls that everyone will be networking with.
If the PNM is really cute and smart and pulled together some of the lower ranked NR houses assume she will be picked up as a filler for higher ranked houses and they release her as well. It is such a struggle to make those decisions. That is where so many good girls fall through the cracks. It is a numbers game and we all know in our houses there is a bias against girls from the North (east or west), upper mid west and in some houses CA unless the PNM is super rich or over the top gorgeous.
It would be nice if everyone were more honest so that the PNM would not feel like there is something wrong with them.
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#3by: The real "truth"
@iffy logic
Your math is incorrect.
"Of the 2,489 women receiving bids, 609 were from Alabama and 1,879 were from Out-of-State (45 states and 8 international countries)"
609 is 24.5% of 2,489.
1,879 is 75.5% of 2,489.
PNMs from 8 other countries received bids, so while being the only person in your town in a far away state to ever attend and rush here may be a disadvantage, the fact that over 75% of the new members last year were oos or even out of country is overwhelmingly favorable to girls who are not in-state.
Are there any huge rushes elsewhere that are more favorable to oos pnms?
#4by: OR
Im in an OR house and we are well over half out of state. We dont bid people by their zipcode its just htat girls have connections and friends pulling for them making them mroe likely to get a bid (or not - it definitely works against people with enemies). At the of the day its not if you're OOS or in state is how much we like you and how connected you are. A far OOS pnm who is amazing in every way and meshes well will get a bid over an ok liked in state good pnm. So tired of hearing people say we only recruit by zipcode. Knowing people helps, obviously, but its definitely not the only thing that matters.
by: OR
by: Wow
Wow! If the above is true (and it probably is) everyone should show appreciation and respect for all those girls that are doing the parading in and out with no hope of being considered. They suffer the blows to their egos as they are dropped, while the "insiders" float by. Adversity builds character - those girls with empty cards have character.
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by: Truth
To the poster Uh-, yes this is what I'm saying. (I'm the OP). Maybe I should have clarified and said 'out of south'. I understand that girls from neighboring states as well as big states in the region like FL and TX know their fair share of people. It's the 'out of south' girls, examples, Illinois, Michigan, New York, California, Arizona, Pennsylvania, etc., that know few if any before they get here and then are stunned to find out that their 4.0 GPA, class presidency, 400+ hrs of community service, great looks and sparkling personality did nothing for them. Nothing. They go through rush thinking they're in the running when, in fact, they are not. At all. It's human nature to believe that you lacked something...that you were released because you didn't interview well enough, weren't pretty enough, didn't wear just the right outfit. But it's simple that you are an unknown entity battling a list full of known entities.
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by: @truth
Not all of us. I am far OOS by your standards, knew no one (not a single person, excepting my roommate, who I got to know when they paired us and a couple of random people I met at Bama Bound) and I've practically had a full card through the entire Rush process. I was missing one house for Sisterhood.
I have no idea why, to be honest, because I came here expecting huge cuts like you said, but it isn't happening. I'm not a legacy anywhere and I do have great grades, activities, and all that other stuff that everyone seems to have.
The only thing I have going for me is that my Mother's best friend IS from an Alabama Sorority (and was beyond thrilled when I decided to go here), and through her awesome networking, I was able to get two Recs for every house. I have a hard time believing that my Recs are keeping me around, but maybe.
Honestly, the OOS girls in my group seem to have more houses than the In-State girls. Don't know if I just have a weird group or if it signals houses giving us non-Alabama girls a better shot this year.
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by: iffy logic
1) According to those statistics, 32% of girls receiving bids were in-state, not "less than 25%."
2) When people here talk about in-state versus out-of-state I think they often disregard the LARGE contingent of girls from states like Georgia, Texas, Tennessee, the Florida Panhandle, etc. Some high schools out of state send half a dozen PNMs to Alabama every single year. Those girls may be out of state but they are FAR from unconnected and probably know as many actives as the girls from rural Alabama towns who may only send 2 or 3 PNMs to UA every year.
Girls from far out of state, who are the only one in their class to go to Alabama and maybe the first ever from their high school, are certainly at a disadvantage. It is like this at every major public university in the country. No denying it.
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