for oos pnms
by: activeCan we please stop with this agenda that far OOS girls have no chance to get in an old row house and would be unhappy there? Because that's simply not true. I knew nobody coming in, ended up in an old row house(preffed 2 other new row houses though) and I love it. From what I had heard on here during rush, I never thought I would be in an OR house(because of where I'm from), but I fell in love during rush and they never dropped me lol. I have a strong group of friends, I'm proud to be in the sorority that I'm in and I'm confident that I would have had the same experience no matter where I went. I'm not the exception to the rule either. There are so many other girls from the northeast/midwest/west/southwest that go into old row houses and are happy. Don't get me wrong, most of my friends are from OOS, but why does that matter? Most of my friends would be from OOS if I went new row so I don't see a difference. Don't let people scare you to try and convince you that you would be miserable in 7 of the 16 houses just because they tend to have more southern girls.
Comment#2by: ok
For every far OOS girl that is happy in her old row house, there are 2 far OOS girls that are happy in their new row houses.Doesn't mean that the new row girls are any happier. Doesn't mean the old row girl would be better off somewhere else. Just means that statistically speaking, there are more in new row - and there are more in new row for a reason.
#3by: J
I'm in a new row house and trust me we're not trying to "push an agenda." By telling the far OOS girls it will be hard for them to go old row makes yall seem more exclusive so I really don't see it as a bad thing. They'll probably want you more.
THIS IS WHY WE REALLY SAY IT
It is hard for far Oos girls to go old row. I am cute enough, had great grades, solid recs, good resume and you know what? I got cut by every OR house first round. Yes I know lots of far oos girls go old row but way more don't. I was crushed getting my philanthropy card back. I love my house but it really hurt having that heavy of cuts at the time. So quit building false hope in these girls. Yes they COULD be the ones that go OR from far away but odds are they won't be. There's way mire southern girls in those houses and we both know it.
PNMs fron far OOS!!
Old row and new row are great. I have no doubt that I would have had no problem fitting in old row with all southern girls and I'm sure yall would too. Most of my friends are southern in my NR house. But just don't think you'll walk right into those houses, bc you will end up having your heart broken if u have that mentality.
by: So...
I need to amend my statement above. There is one thing I don't necessarily love, but I'm betting that it's not just my sorority.
Some of the fraternities we hang out with have some of the most god awful boys that I've ever come across in my life. I think they take the whole "in-state OOS" thing way too seriously and that doesn't necessarily mean their boys are the greatest. Most of them are pretty bad.
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by: So...
@u
The problem is that I'm IN one of those OR sororities, so they are everywhere. Some of their egos make OR sorority girls look positively calm and not impressed with their status.
I just solved the problem by finding myself a sweet Georgia boy from NR, and haven't looked back.
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by: J
I wrote this comment and I don't see where I bashed old row. I literally said for the girls that do get in, they won't have any problems fitting in. But it is harder to get in old row from oos and I just want them to not have super high expectations, I didn't say they should just avoid old row or something idk what your deal is. I said nothing bad about old row, being hard to get in is literally a good thing.
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by: J
Like im actually shook i said nothing about the ones that do get in not fitting in or feeling like fillers idk where u even got that from u misinterpreted my comment so much
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by: Pak's
There are always exceptions and persons posting here will claim they are exceptions, but I agree.
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by: Ummm
I'm gonna correct this for you. It's hard to get in an OR house without connections. It has nothing to do with geography.
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by: Pak's
Absolutely true. If you are instate without connections, you are done. For in-state, those connections need to be friendly and need to come through. So many instate girls think they have connections, but don't have anyone really pulling with effort. It takes effort from the inside for an instate girl to get top OR (not AGD, KD). If you are OOS without connections, you have a chance if you are really outstanding.
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by: roll tide
@Pak's
I disagree with you. Being in-state, even if your 'connections' are simply going to the same high school as a few actives, counts for something. It puts you on the radar immediately and it makes it much easier for actives to find out more about you. Those weak connections can add to a house's perception of you and put you on the map.
If you are OOS without connections then it is much harder to get on the map. Not to mention that MOST PNMs, including out of state PNMs, are not "outstanding". Old row will take the solid in-state girl they know over the better OOS girl they don't almost every time.
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#5by: I am an Angel
#6by: active
I definitely agree with all of your comments! I won't deny that there are a lot more far OOS girls in new row than old row, all my friends in new row houses love where they are. Sometimes posts about IS vs OOS make it seems like all OOS girls will be ostracized in an old row house and that's not the case. I almost chose to put one of the NR houses as my first choice during pref because I was afraid that I would be lonely in an OR houses because of my location/lack of connections. I still believe I would have had a great experience there, but I'm glad I stuck with the house that i was most excited about during rush because it's where I fit.
by: u
don't over think it.
Go where you are most happy.
Works every time.
Just be true to your self.
Don't pretend to be something else.
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#7by: ACTIVE.
This whole NR vs. OR things is annoying. NO ONE is trying to deter PNMs from pledging OR. Everyone knows that OR is much more competitive and "exclusive" during rush than NR. Also, NR and OR don't cross rush.
The point that people are trying to make, is that if you PNMs have the opportunity to go either NR or OR, decide based on your genuine feelings. Don't play the name game and don't pledge a house just because you know a certain frat really likes them or because they hold a certain "status." Of course, there are OOS girls in OR houses who love their house and have lots of friends... However, OOS girls in OR houses have to work harder at it than girls in NR houses. Why? Because there are many girls in OR houses who are snobby and will not talk to you because of what zip code you're from... And if any of you try to deny this then you're lying to yourself. And are there girls in NR houses who are snobby and not sisterly too? Yes, but it's very different.
I'm not trying to attack any houses... ALL houses are amazing and Greek life is what you make of it. However, don't be naive. For an OR active to say her house doesn't have snobby girls who will not speak to you if you're from a certain area is just a complete lie.
by: RTR.
by: active
It's actually funny bc I was in no way an exceptional PNM. I wasn't involved in the typical things houses look for, I have average looks, I'm not crazy rich, and wasn't a legacy. I did have good grades/ACT scores, but so many other girls do too. I preffed 2 other NR houses that were both middle/lower and I legitimately liked those houses and would have been happy there too. I know that this make me the exception and not the rule, but it still definitely happens. There are 7 old row houses- not everyone that they give bids to are going to be top, perfect PNMs.
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by: So...
You got cut by every OR house and now you are on an anonymous website bashing them. You can understand why people call you a bunch of trolls. That's pretty much the definition.
I'm from Colorado, knew not one single person on campus, pref was two OR houses one new. I went with a top OR house and I love everything about it. Do I get along with every girl in my house? Of course not, but I'd challenge anyone to find hundreds of girls where everyone loves each other. My two best friends are from Alabama, though, and I've never ONCE felt like a filler girl, or whatever the hell you trolls call them.
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