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I heard that sometimes if a house keeps you for too long, then they can't drop you before pref... Is that true?

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#1by: Active   
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so I'm guessing you're thinking after pref not before pref. Any house can drop you going into pref from sisterhood but once you pref a house you're on their bid list somewhere so if you rank them first you have some chance of getting them. You'll only get your 2nd or 3rd choice if you're a good bit higher on their bid list.

OR sometimes if the girls in the early rounds give a pnm a high rating then even if the actives in later rounds hate her it could be hard to balance out her early ranks.

OP tell me if either of those were what you were looking for or if u need me to expand.

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WRONG. You don't automatically get the house whose bid list you're highest on.

You only get your second or third choice if you're not high enough on your first choice's list. (i.e if quota was 150 and you were 151 you wouldn't make the cut.)

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#2by: Activ    
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i think some houses have national policies where if a legacy makes it to sisterhood they have to invite her to pref?

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If a legacy makes it to sisterhood it's pretty rude if they don't invite her to pref-- with legacies you're either supposed to cut her after philanthropy so she can focus on other houses or bid her. That said I don't know of any sorority that has that rule. However I do know most sororities have the rule that if a legacy attends pref she automatically goes to the top of the bid list.

I think tri delt is the one sorority that has no rules regarding legacies-- they're not even required to invite them to the second round as a courtesy.

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Last year, I prefed my legacy house but put a different house first when I voted and got my first choice. Was this pretty unlikely? Looking back at it now I'm confused how I got my first choice since I was supposed to be at the top of my legacy house's bid list. Not complaining at all since I obviously wanted my 1st choice house, just not totally understanding how the system works.

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Sorry if this is confusing, I'll try to be as clear as possible:

In the system called RFM that sororities use, the PNM's pref ranking has preference in bid matching. So basically it looks at what the PNM wants, and if she is high enough on her number 1 house's list to get a bid, she goes to her number 1. You only move to your number 2 if your number 1 house fills to quota before your name is reached, and so on.

So while the houses decide who comes back to the parties each round, the PNM's pref rankings more determines what house she ends up in.

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Okay I decided I don't like my explanation so I'm trying again. PNM's wishes don't technically have preference but if say she is number 200 on her number 1's bid list, quota is 150, and only 130 of the girls above her had matched to the same house when her name was reached, she would get a bid. Otherwise she would move to her 2nd. Everything else I said is good.

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#3by: OP   
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Sorry I don't mean to be confusing but I don't really know which scenario it could be... I've just heard from various people that sometimes if a girl is kept by a house for multiple rounds then they can't drop her at the end... And I think the people who told me that were referring to all PNMs, not just legacies. They also explained that that's why some weird girls or girls you wouldn't expect in certain houses end up getting bids.

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Yea I'm guessing whoever you were talking to meant that the actives in early rounds gave the pnm a high enough score that in later rounds low scores were not enough to drop her. Scores from all rounds are factored in so if someone who talks to a girl for 40 minutes during sisterhood realizes she doesn't like the pnm, if the active who talked to her during open house for 5 minutes gave her too high of a score the house could end up stuck with her anyway.

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I feel like what they're talking about is that if a house cuts too many girls initially or they are a house that doesn't have the ability to be as selective because of their return rates they won't be able to make as many cuts as they want in later rounds if they want to make quota/ total. This means they basically get stuck with girls they'd rather not have, but would rather have them than COB/ snap bids

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It could be the above scenario or the person you talked to could just be confused.. if a house really does not want a girl after sisterhood they will drop her, even with high scores. My house has a process to make an exception that disregards score

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#4by: no   
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No. If that were true, nobody would get cut from anywhere after sisterhood.

It's after pref where no cuts are made.

The only scenario where this makes sense is if its a legacy.

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are you guaranteed a bid if you attend any pref parties? even if its only one?

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Yes. As long as you attend every pref party you're scheduled for, you're guaranteed a bid - even if you're only scheduled for one.

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Oh, you aren't guaranteed a bid if you have more than one pref party but suicide one on your MRABA, so don't do that!!!!!! But it obviously doesn't apply if you have one.

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So if I only go to one Pref party, I'm going to be running to that house the next day, no matter what? What if I'm 151 on their Bid list (as in the example above).

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YES - IF you ranked ALL houses where you attended every round AND accepted every single invitation for every single round then yes, you're going to be running to that house even if you're 151 and quota is 150. You would be a quota addition, but you would never know that, nor would anyone else.

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Yes, if you are 151 out of 150 on a house's bid list and that is the only house you preffed, you will still get a bid. You'd be a quota addition. But you'll never know whether you were 1 or 150 so it won't matter.

The simplest way to think of it is this: If you make it to pref, you get a bid as long as you don't suicide.

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Just to be clear, if you are invited to 3 houses for pref and you go to all three, you are guaranteed a bid from one of them. If you are invited to two and you go to two, you will get a bid from one of them. If you are invited to one and you go, that's where you will get a bid.

If you are invited to 2 or 3 and only attend one, you run the risk of getting cut completely if you are not high enough on your #1 choice's list.

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