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Forgot to mention SDT- they have basically increased their membership x10 in the past few years and if they keep on I think they'll be able to move to the row when construction is over, which is good timing for them actually. Then they can participate in formal. A lot of people want them to be forced to do formal asap but that would be a horrific failure

If they save the swing houses for the new chapters it lowers the risk for them. Maybe that is part of a plan?

It may be considering the lots are so small, you can't do anything else with them. It would probably never happen but it would be great if AKA could move to alpha gams old house, then their lot and adpis old lot could be used for a new house

This this this!!!!!! Or Panhellenic needs to either impose a GPA requirement or cut off registration in the middle of July like Arkansas does and not allow any registrations at convocation.

Honestly, some of the UA administration came by our house to talk about a freshman retention initiative and we were like "well stop letting in kids who you know are going to flunk out"

Part of the blame is on Panhellenic though. They would make us have a 100% bid rate if they could.

last year we were up to 2800 according to panhellenics instagram at the 1st sign up cut off and only 2700 at convocation so I don't think late sign ups are the problem. More people actually backed out during that time. I do agree that the placement rates are a problem. We should not have to place 95% of the girls thats what leads to all this "filler girls" nonsense. We need a pc size cap not quota.

I honestly think a GPA cutoff is the way to go because it solves two problems in one: high pledge class sizes and low retention rate. If your GPA is below a 3.0 then use freshman year to prove you can actually handle the rigor of college and rush as a sophomore.

Personally I hate the idea of girls with 2.7s getting into houses on "connections" only to drop out after they get back their grades for first semester while far OOS girls with solid GPAs who love the idea of being in Greek life get cut because they're socially awkward and we have a PC size cap.

Yeah PC size cap is no good, that leads to qualified girls getting dropped- but I love the idea of a GPA cutoff. I'm in a house that has lower return rates and sometimes the number of girls Panhellenic tells us we can cut is less than the amount of girls with below a 3.0. So basically panhellenic is telling us that we have to take grade risks. How is that okay?!

Indiana has 23, Illinois has 19, Penn State has 18 and used to have 20 until a few years ago. We could have way more! We just count new chapters out before they begin.

having smaller pledge classes means that dues will go up for everyone because they need to charge more for the decreased number of active members. THIS is nearly impossible because houses at alabama are already SO large and expensive, making dues higher would cause a lot to drop. i think keeping the sororities at the size they are now is sufficent.

Actually, not necessarily. Of course our budget would have to go down BUT with less people around that's pretty manageable. Some areas would have to be reduced in order to make up for housing costs but I think with gradual downsizing we could make it so dues are not any higher.

I know at my house we could lose quite a few members before dues would go up. I know it seems like less members = higher dues but that's when you're talking about numbers like 40 vs 80, not 300 vs 450.

Either way my dues still go up every year

idk how all houses are but my houses dues increase some each year and the pcs are getting bigger so clearly more girls isn't keeping dues down

riiight. I could understand if we were a school with a slight emphasis on greek life but we have the largest formal rush in the country. We should have enough chapters to refelct that. Everyone makes claims about the types of girl in each house but to be honest you cant have 400 girls with the same personality traits. More chapters would help with the cohesion within houses themselves for sure.

They got rid of bed rush at least a year or 2 ago.

IU's rush is a f-cking mess, I 100% agree. They no longer do bed quota but they still have a massive divide between housed and unhoused chapters. Something like 1/3 of girls suicided on pref last year and so many girls dropped out that it messed up their quota. Their placement rate is only like 70%.

I can think of quite a few schools that have GPA minimums but I think they all have spring rush so it's college GPA. I wonder if you can only have one if you have deferred recruitment.

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Transferred from a school with deferred recruitment and can confirm that college GPA is all that matters. Who you were and what you did in high school didn't factor in at all. The focus is entirely on what you did with your first semester on campus and what you plan on doing in the future - super different vibe.

Honestly I know we are so set in our ways here and I'm usually one for tradition but I would love deferred recruitment. You have a college GPA and girls have had time to decide if Alabama is really for them, plus it wouldn't be so friggen hot

Once again speaking as someone who's experienced both: there are positives and negatives no matter what.

Deferred rush generally lends itself to higher placement rates because the girls participating know they will fit in Greek life. You also get a wider range of girls participating because many girls were on the fence, showed up and saw how cool Greek life is, and then signed up.

The major downsides: leadership was weak because exec positions ran by the calendar year, meaning if you went abroad in the spring you couldn't be on exec. We lost a lot of strong leaders because of that. Also, you can kiss the no contact period goodbye. How can you have a no contact period when actives are your RAs, your TAs, your group project members, fellow club members, teammates, study buddies? Answer: you can't. So dirty rushing was everywhere - more than here - and it really sucked.