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... And I am really glad they are coming here! We need more chapters and our greek system will benefit with more Panhellenic sororities for so many reasons.

Please welcome them and help them create a positive rep to PNMs and our community.

Is there still one empty lot available for housing, so SK can build in a few years?

By the time SK is ready to colonize all the current sororities will be in new houses. So SK will probably either get the current swing house AOPi is in or the current swing house DZ is in. And I don't think they'll be building a new house any time soon after they colonize... Their nationals will want to wait years to put money into building a mansion to ensure that the sorority is on a good path. I mean, SK did try to colonize here already and they failed after a few years so.

I've heard they're tearing down one of the building next to DG and building it there. Honestly I think that if SK doesn't build a new house, they will not colonize successfully. You need a mansion to compete at Bama at this point

I attended SK's presentation and they will be building a brand new house for the girls almost immediately, kind of how DG did. You can't survive here without a house. And there's basically 0% chance of the colony failing just look at DG and Alpha Phi.

Welcome them for sure.

Why would they not appeal to you? Because they are new and not established? We need to be welcoming, non judgemental, and supportive. It is hard for a new chapter to come to campus especially one like Alabama. Accepting new sororities and helping them thrive will benefit Greek life as a whole. I hope they are welcomed more easily that a phi.

SK wouldn't appeal to me as a PNM because they aren't an established chapter. Colonizing a new chapter is hard, and it's going to be even harder at a school like Alabama where tradition means everything. And all of this is the truth, SK is definitely going to have a hard time successfully colonizing, and I think being realistic about this is better than fluffing it up to make it seem like something it's not.

I wish the best for SK because we really do need a way to control the growing pledge class sizes. However, if it was up to me, having SK colonize here would not have been my first choice. We have a fully capable NPC sorority on campus that has already been around for decades. I know there were threads about SDT a while ago, and I don't want to sound like a broke record, but I feel that if they tried hard enough they could definitely become a large, successful chapter. It doesn't make sense to introduce a new NPC sorority when we already have one under the rocks. I know everything's set in stone now so arguing about this won't change anything but I'm just saying.

Idk, I hope the best for SK but I know and you know that it will not be easy for them. I mean just look at the other sororities that tried to colonize here but failed. They need to be ready to fight and they need to be ready for rejection from people in the Greek community. Just the truth.

You can't have it both ways. Either SK comes or SK isn't coming. And SK IS coming.

The last time an Alabama NPC sorority (re)colonized and failed: Sigma Kappa, 1988-1995.

Prior to that: Alpha Xi Delta, 1981-88.

And beyond that: Delta Phi Epsilon 1953-73.

Alabama has had so few failed sororities it makes no sense to label our campus as a place of sorority "rejection". Also TBH we as a campus failed to make thrive two groups who colonized during the great 1980's greek life growth push.

The size of recruitment classes will only go down drastically under a depressed economic situation resulting in mass exodus from greek life due to its cost.

Re: Delta Phi, I wouldn't really call 20 years as a chapter a failure in colonization. Maybe the campus just wasn't right for them at the time. They presented in 2011 and were found to not be a great fit for us at the time either but maybe in another 10 years they can revisit.

I know some people really like big new member classes as it allows for a cushion for those who drop, and keeps cash flow positive... But the opportunity to eventually have smaller pledge classes will give chapters the opportunity to create stronger connections and sisterhoods.

i like big classes but they're already huge and growing. Sk will keep them the size they are for a few years at least otherwise they could be up to 200 by a few years from now and that is literally too big for the houses.

The unnecessary overuse of exclamation points makes your post look like it was written by a member of Alpha Omicron Pi!!!

You can't say that SDT has weak nationals and then say SK doesn't. The truth of the matter is that any new sorority introduced to Alabama will have weak nationals because we already have all the houses with strong national networks (AXO, KAT, KKG, XO, etc) and we already have a few houses that are only strong in certain regions (PM, AGD, etc). SDT and SK have a few decent chapters here and there but neither have top chapters at any school comparable to Alabama.

Also you can't compare a small Northeastern school to Alabama. It's so much easier to colonize sororities at small schools where Greek life isn't a major aspect because there isn't going to be a pushback from people in the Greek community. Also Greek life isn't embedded in the history of a lot of Northeastern schools and when PNMs rush they don't care about establishment and the history of a house. But at Alabama it's a completely different story.

Also, I think another thing that may scare PNMs away from pledging a newly colonized sorority is that there's no safety in doing so. A newly colonized house may flourish the first few years but it may dramatically dip the following years. And if a house isn't successful enough within a certain time frame then their charter gets pulled.

I don't think SK has a strong nationals, but they are HELL of a long stronger than SDT. Let's look at the numbers, shall we?

-They've been in the NPC for 40+ more years (!)
-They have TWICE as many active collegiate chapters (!!)
-They have nearly three times as many collegiate members (!!!)
-They already have active chapters at FIVE other SEC schools. SDT has NONE besides Bama.

I admit that my comparison to a small school was misguided and obviously is not comparable, but my point is that SO MANY sororities are afraid of colonizing on our campus because they do not think it is feasible. If SK can be successful then we will be able to show the Panhellenic Conference that we are serious about welcoming new houses to our campus. SDT does not provide a model for upcoming expansion; SK does. Therefore it is in our best interest for the future of the campus that SK is brought in.

lol relax. SK self rankers on here already...

Man, GR is something else. Factual information counts as self-ranking now, I guess? Excuse me for being optimistic about their chances here, lol.

Your self ranking comment about a house not even on campus shows the true colors of some people on here. Sorry that people are trying to be supportive and positive towards a new sorority that is coming to Alabama. Hopefully this is not indicative of the reception they will get when they colonize.

They can't come on right this minute. They don't have solid house plans (But i am sure they will once they get all the details sorted out), they probably haven't assembled the colonization team yet, on top of a hundred other things that need to happen first before they start recruiting members.
Basically, they will probably come to campus during a spring semester (maybe THIS spring? Maybe NOT! Who knows!) and do a lot of PR and stuff trying to attract upperclassmen and freshmen who did not rush or dropped. The most likely won't be having a new member class at this time.
The fall after that, they will probably be at OPEN HOUSE ROUND ONLY, and then they will not do anymore rounds. That is to get everyone who is participating in formal recruitment to take a look at them in the same way as the other chapters. Then once formal recruitment is they will do interviews for prospective founding members. Then they will have some sort of a pref round. THEN they will extend their bids. They will probably attempt to take as many girls as there is for total so 300-400 girls? THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY WILL TAKE WHOEVER SIGNS UP. They know they have to be choosey. If they let any one off the street in, they know they will fail. if that means being under total, they will COB in spring until they get the girls they want.
This is typically what happens with most colonies and what has happened for big colonizations at SEC schools.