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by: Tradition    

I know for a fact of two old row (very very very old row) sororities who couldn't pledge their very best legacies over the last 1-2 years. These were very connected girls, some with even sisters even in the house, and they went elsewhere. Definitely the chapter's loss and they have some uppity girls in the house that think they are everything and assumed they "had" these girls. I love independent thinkers though. You don't have to pledge bc mom did or sister did or because it's old row. Pledge what best fits you.

I even know girls who cut several Old Row off the bat where they had no interest in holding conversations with these narcissists and some who cut NR because they didn't knew they didn't see themselves in a certain house. Do your own thing... maximize options but if the shoe doesn't fit, don't force it.

Posted By: Tradition
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#1by: so true   
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I know many legacies pledging different things than their 'connections.' It is not the same as years ago. Who wants to sit in a house that they don't feel comfortable in just bc mom did lol 30 years ago

By: so true
#2by: PNM's please read   
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Yes thank you for saying this!!

By: PNM's please read
#3by: True   
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Completely agree, I don't really see the relevance of old vs new row. Old row tends to think they are above everyone because they WERE mainly instate girls and talk very bad about independent minded girls - OOS. However, as time goes by you are seeing more INSTATE and simply more independent minded girls go to new row. Based on my observations new row tends to attract those strong independent minded girls that want to own a company, be a doctor, be in charge. Whereas, old row girls are looking to find a husband or at least a proposal before they graduate so they can stay home backing apple pies.

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by: Hilarious   

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Let's play a trivia game!

Which house has more alums that are doctors?
A). Alpha Chi
B). Alpha Phi

Which house has more alums that are lawyers?
A). Chi O
B). Zeta

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by: So funny   

Literally is there a single Alpha Phi alum that is a doctor or lawyer or owns her own business that isn't a boutique, hair salon or tanning bed?

Name ONE.

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by: Too funny not to   

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by: You sir are an idiot   

You don't have to go to Harvard law or business school. I'm in a house known for academics and I have several sisters that have graduated and gone on to med and law school at prestigious universities. Just because you complete undergrad at Bama in no way limits you to graduate school options.

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by: FYI   

there are plenty ZTA and A Phi alum that go on to become doctors, lawyers and successful women.

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by: FYI   

there are plenty ZTA and A Phi alum that go on to become doctors, lawyers and successful women.

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#4by: K   
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If you don't want to pledge Old Row, then don't. If you don't want to pledge New Row, then don't. Do you think my feelings are hurt because some dumb KD legacies pledged elsewhere? Your post is a waste of time.

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#5by: huh   
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what does post #4 even mean? If you're a KD and that happened and your feelings aren't hurt/don't care, then the point of the OP is well made.

By: huh
by: huh   

What the OP said was "Do your own thing... maximize options but if the shoe doesn't fit, don't force it" which is true but also fits for sororities not pledging legacies or girls with connections.

My house both cut legacies and got cut by legacies. You can't get your feelings hurt either way. Everything always works out in the end. It's NOT a chapters loss if the PNM doesn't want them, it would be the chapters loss if they automatically had to rush or even pledge the girls.

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by: chapter's loss   

If the PNM legacy is outstanding then it is the Chapter's loss if they can't hold on to such a girl. Your apathy is what's wrong with some of these places. It is one thing to wish someone well, another to say you don't care or call people dumb legacies-- these are the daughters and sisters of your "sisters"... I would say they are smart bc they saw through and did what they wanted.

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#6by: leg   
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Well, it most certainly is a loss if the PNM is outstanding and didn't pledge bc most do want to go where their sisters and moms went unless there is a problem with that place. When you lose an in house legacy you need to look at yourself.\n\n\n\n\n

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by: ehhh   

I disagree. Being a legacy and feeling like you have to pledge your mom or sister's house is a thing of the past. Tons of girls in my group parted ways with their legacy houses early on. This isn't your mama's rush anymore and girls are more open minded and wanting to create their own path than they were 30 years ago.

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by: same   

Same is true for sister's house. I know of many strong maternal legacies, sister and even "in-house sister" legacies over the past couple of years that have gone in a different direction than mom or sister did. These girls wanted to do their own thing and make their own mark. It is not an insult to the legacy house or to mom or sister. It is an easy thing to understand actually.

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#7by: not the point   
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The point of the OP was that you don't have to pledge mama's house. The point later, valid i think, is you should be treated well by mama's house.

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by: Legacy   

Just because your mom was a DDD at Southwestern Texas Women's College for the Blind,in no way requires DDD here to keep you through extra rounds or offer you a bid. For some houses there are more legacies going through than spots in a pledge class. It's actually more polite to release a legacy early on if a house knows she's not a fit, so she has time and an extra slot to find the right house for her.

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#8by: 123   
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I'm a Legacy and I pledged my legacy...wouldn't have it any other way! Love my mama, love my sisters!

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#9by: And   
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I know there are some very smart AXOs in tough majors.

But there are ALLOT of AXOs in easy majors. In that regard house GPA doesn't always tell the entire story.

Some of the high GPA houses have also graduated many "Parks Recreation" majors.

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by: Ghfj   

AXO likes those art, education and dance majors...

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#10by: Treating legacies well   
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Good houses do whether mama was at whatever school BUT the person was talking about in house legacies. That means a sister sitting in that house right now or a mom who was in it at Alabama. To say they are "dumb legacies" is a term you'll regret when your daughter gets cut.

Girls definitely should do their own thing, but losing a quality in house legacy should be very embarrassing to a sorority and something they need to examine. And it happened ALOT the last 2 years with two of the oldest of old row.

By: Treating legacies well
by: yeah   

If a girl comes through and is a legacy at a different chapter, and you know she's not a fit, OK.

But if a girl comes through and is a top-notch PNM whose mother was in your very own house, and SHE cuts YOU, that is a serious issue and needs to be addressed immediately.

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by: .   

that was me lol. i have deep family connections (mom, aunts, cousins all were in the alabama chapter) with one particular old row sorority, and i cut them after philanthropy. i knew way ahead of time that the chapter had changed a lot from when my relatives where in the chapter and it would not be a good fit for me AT ALL. to top it off, they didnt treat me like legacies should be treated, and I was a good PNM regardless of legacy status (great grades, involvement, cute, southern, etc). its ridiculous bc i know this house knows how to recruit, and they couldve easily made me like them by having me talk to cool people but they just didnt care. I ended up pledging a different old row house and i couldnt be happier.

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