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sigma kappa ?

by: RTR   

Are they colonizing or nah?

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#1by: .   
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no. not until sigma delta tau decides to put in some work and participate in formal recruitment again.

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by: nationally   

Any NPC group, IF INVITED, would likely colonize as soon as the current sorority housing situation has shaken-out. I think Alabama's old, established Rho chapter of SDT does not participate in formal rush, with the okay from panhellenic and the campus, since they are not chosen often by pnms during regular formal recruitment. I think SDT is not the hold-back to any other NPC group being allowed to colonize.

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by: LL   

^^Yes, i agree mostly with this statement. ADT needs to shape up or ship out, but i think if there ended up being enough interest a chapter of a service sorority or even another christian sorority could be added for that "alternative" people seem to be looking for.

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SDT's nationals are fine with them operating outside of formal recruitment/the usual structure--this is not the only school where they've done that. They'd rather have a chapter at Bama than no chapter, and they're still making money with a smaller chapter. If both their nationals and the local chapter are okay operating outside the system and filling a different niche, why should that hold other sororities back?

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#2by: well   
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Bama isnt open for expansion although the numbers are of course there....they've been to visit/talk/present/whatever but yeah, the whole Sig delt thing needs to be addressed before we bring another chapter back.

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A Phi and DG were both invited to colonize while Sig Delt was in the same situation. What's changed?

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#3by: LOL   
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Y'all are so uninformed. Sigma Kappa is doing their formal presentation on Monday and the chapters/delegates will vote whether or not they colonize for sure

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This is true. They came to visit campus recently and will be giving their presentation, although I'm sure panhel will say yes. I don't think Panhellenic has any jurisdiction over how any particular chapter operates so unless SDT nationals try to make them do formal I doubt they will do anything, especially after the incident at UT.

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#4by: about SDT   
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This is how SDT operates at a lot of campuses, but there are campuses where SDT participates fully and is successful as a regular NPC group.

Of the groups not at Alabama, really only Sigma Kappa and Alpha Xi Delta can support chapters/colonizing here, but as it is a large investment, they want to make sure they will be successful.

As far as I know, the hold-up is the house construction.

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#5by: Wrong   
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Everyone here is forgetting that SDT can't perform on equal footing with the other 16 NPC houses. They don't have enough actives to handle formal recruitment and think about how many girls will drop that only have SDT at pref. You're all oversimplifying! You somehow want SDT to participate but it doesn't work! Why can't some of you understand the issue at hand? It's not that hard to comprehend. SK has enough of a national presence to make it happen and become successful! SK is top tier at lots of schools. They are top tier at UofPenn. SDT just can't compete in the highly competitive environment at UA. They do their best and you can't get blood from a stone!

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It wouldn't work, because they tried it before. SDT did formal exactly once after they lost their house, in 2007. They got a grand total of three new members.

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by: nevertheless   

Sigma Delta Tau remains an old and valued member of the University of Alabama campus panhellenic, serving campus and community with dignity. Their size should not be the only touchstone of evaluation. NPC groups work together for the betterment of all their members and here the SDTs are managing according to their own and the panhellenic's guidelines. Greekrank isn't going to change the 115 year-old NPC systems of sisterhood and strength.

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by: LL   

@nevertheless it is not just about size. it's a double standard if you ask me. do you think we all want pledge classes with 200 new members???? RFM forces us to only cut a certain number of girls because we would hurt ourselves in the end if we cut too many (even ones we dont totally want). RFM was made so everyone had to take a certain amount of girls (and so pnms wouldn't go through recruitment to pref round and then get shafted, but i digress). Why can't my chapter just "do it's own thing"? Why are we forced to entertain the idea of taking 200 new members when maybe i could just say hey i want us to recruit this other way instead BYE, and take the few that i actually want?
It's happened before at other campuses (although i agree NOTHING compares to our rush) but just to name a few, Phi Mu @William and Mary "recolonized" with the remaining members still there, Tri Sigma at UVA and in the past Alpha Phi at UVA...I agree none of these schools recruitments hold a candle to ours, but you have to acknowledge it is not impossible and a very real option.

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by: @LL   

So call your NPC's headquarters and the NPC and ask them to allow your NPC group to dis-invest itself from the other 25 co-operating sororities. Then your group can "do its own thing" on whichever campuses you remain upon. It is really that simple.

NPC has rules and regulations and agreements situated to allow every group a voice and purpose of existence. If Alabama panhellenic decides it no longer wants SDT as a group on campus, be prepared for disagreement by SDT and NPC.

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by: LL   

^^ ??? Why doesn't SDT do the same thing? SDT is literally doing it's own thing. Why are they not being held to the same standards as the rest of the NPC here? Why have any regulations at all if one group gets to have special exceptions made? They have one foot in one foot out. Pick what you want to be.

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by: Honestly   

SDT would be better off giving up their charter and becoming a local, a chapter of a small non-NPC national like Kappa Beta Gamma, a multicultural sorority, or a service sorority like Gamma Sigma Sigma or Omega Phi Alpha.

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@LL Your chapter is allowed to take as many or as few members as they want. There's nothing saying that they have to take 200 girls. They can cut harder than RFM demands. They don't because they want more members.

SDT's size isn't an advantage in UA's system. They've participated in formal rush in the past and couldn't be competitive with the other sororities. They didn't have enough girls to match up with PNMs, they didn't have the same amount of money to spend on parties, and it resulted in them getting almost no members despite wasting their time, energy and money on a heartbreaking process.

If people want pledge classes to get smaller than the best thing to do is open up the university to a new organization. A new org can take 300-400 members right off the bat and hopefully take quota every year afterward; because of SDT's legacy on this campus, they can't.

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by: @LL   

NPC also allows campuses to recruit with variable quotas, 150ish for the smaller less popular groups and 105ish for the largest popular groups.

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#6by: lol   
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SK is presenting today! excited to see what happens!

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#7by: Skittles   
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Heard the presentation went well and all that is left is for the rest of the chapters to vote for them to come on to campus.

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#8by: Wants to know   
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So what's the outcome? is Sigma Kappa returning to campus?

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