Realistic Expectations For Rush
by: aaaafsfas
How rush really breaks down by dirty rush/where you should keep your expectations for relevant houses. Rush is always ad hoc thgh so a house will take more kids if they think they fit with the house across all tiers so keep that in mind. Just trends I have noticed, chime in with any additional info/corrections.
Top: Sig Chi / DU / Sig Phi
Pretty much accepted as the hardest houses to get into. Sig Chi and DU generally average around 20 guys while Sig Phi is smaller probably around 15 guys as its more niche. Probably have dirty rushed 80-90% of the guys they are going to take. Will take dudes but it will be hard as they probably have 13-18 guys set. Probably around 300-400 different guys will check them out during rush so most packed, gonna be hard to make an impression especially over zoom.
Upper: AD/Sig Pi
Also very difficult houses to get into in general. Dirty rush just as much as the top houses, but will lose kids who they dirty rushed to the top houses and will inevitably snap bid a few kids who either did not rush or are top upper mid rushes. Slightly larger, generally have 20-25 guys a class but still have roughly 300-400 guys checking them out during rush so still very competitive to get a bid from without dirty rush.
Upper Mid:
Chi Phi/Chi Psi/DX
This is where it is a little more feasible to get a bid without getting dirty rushed. Probably will have anywhere from 200-300 guys checking them out. Take large classes of 20-25 usually. Still dirty rush a lot, probably 50-60% of their class will be filled from dirty rush so you still need to make a strong impression to get moved forward. Will lose guys to upper houses and to each other
Lambda/TDX/ZBT
Not to sure about TDX given they are the new football house so take a lot of the football guys, but am assuming similar to Lambda if you are cool and fit in you have a shot. Take large classes as of late but also bid a lot of people. Dirty rush but maybe roughly 20-30% of their classes. ZBT does not really compete for rushes that hard here as they used to with Phi Psi (which they lost) but still takes healthy 15-20 kids a class. Will lose top rushes/dirty rushes to houses above them. Not sure about ZBT and TDX but Lambda will probably have 150-200 guys checking them out during rush.
Mid: Pike/PiKapp, rush tapers off here significantly
Largest houses in the mid tier. Probably have anywhere from 100-150 guys checking them out at any point during rush. Both target large classes and give a sizeable amount of bids at least 30+ bids. Do not neccessarily have any kids locked (besides club rugby for Pike) but generally will have 10-20% of their class from guys they know well/have them as top choice. The rest they take from rush. Will lose guys 75% of the time to houses above them.
Phi Tau/PSK
Last real line of relevancy/repuations at Cornell. Smaller, less packed rush probably around 90-130 kids maybe check them out throughout rush. Much more brotherhood focused thgh and heavy focus on fit rather than quanitity. Give out significantly fewer bids than Pike probably around 25ish and aim to get classes of around 15 which has been the norm for these two in past three spring rushes. Little to no dirty rush but probably have 10% of their class in mind before rush. Will lose kids to Pike/PiKapp more often than not but will still win bids from guys who get bids here and those two.
#11by: ^^
Overall very accurate but I think that all houses are gonna be a bit less competitive this year. Heard from some brothers that much fewer ppl signed up for rush this spring than even last year. Frosh may have a better chance than in prior years for top houses, but still important for them to stand out and vibe well w brothers.
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by: lalaland
I think last year around 450 ppl rushed and like 250 signed bids. Really shows how wack greeklife has become since pre SAE where close to a 1000 dudes would rush and like 500-600 would sign bids to 40 different houses, of which 25 or so would consistently take 15 or more guys. So this seems like its in line with the gradual decline over the years.
Given there have not been any known (everyone has had parties lowkey) parties for frosh to really get to know each vibe, I think top/upper/upper mids are gonna be packed pre first contact and then people are a)either gonna realize they really don't fit there and b)get cut as expected because their ego didn't let them understand they fit there and then mid houses will get flooded in second contacts. Usually in a normal year mid houses still get at least 75-100 guys showing up to their first smokers and more for second contacts because some guys just know where they fit.
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