is aoii colonizing next year?

Yeah seriously...we have 16 great sororities already. If rushing your first time didn't work out then rush again instead of blaming the ISC and saying you need more/better options

Please, please ...

Says a bunch of rejects from rush..if rush didn't work out for you but you're still desperate to be in a sorority then just rush again! Plenty of girls do it. Convincing yourselves that the ISC will get rid of a chapter that just got here just so that you can start your own new sorority won't help.

Never had a chapter at UVA. Maybe that's a good thing.

a million votes up

Amen

I think they sold the house. Maybe they could buy SSS if they would please just fold and go away.

Please, please, please, please, please.

Bump

Time to do something. Someone start a groupme with interested women.

Tri Sig will always be bottom, they can recolonize 50 times and they will still be bottom. They are not a strong enough national to move up. APhi has an awesome national presence. Do the research. To wait to bring a new sorority to grounds until Tri Sig "moves up" is ridiculous. A sorority with a strong national reputation would pass Tri Sig their first year. ISC needs to get their act together.

It's clear that the ISC leadership and the sisters in "top" and "mid" tier sororitys like having SSS around because it makes them feel superior to someone.

Actually we'd like tri sig to leave grounds so we could get some decent sororitys like phi mu.

If you're in a "mid-tier" sorority why do you care. Smells like a bottom tier troll if you ask me. SDT is still fairly new and finally getting a house so that should help them but SSS needs to leave. After a major renovation on their house they still did terrible at formal, the writing is on the wall. Who wants to join a sinking ship with a lame national?

Maybe the way SSS nationals shut down the chapter last time has poisoned their future here forever.

Honestly, has any other UVa sorority shut down, kicked out all the members, and then come back?

Pretty sure Alpha Phi HQ shut down the UVa chapter -- rumor was they didn't think the women were pretty enough to attract big numbers of new members -- and then re-opened it. Don' think there was much of a break in time. Maybe a fall semester.

APhi was a failing chapter that was "revitalized" by their national in 2000. Basically recolonized without pulling the charter. They did the same with their chapters at Cornell, Duke, and Mizzou; all are now considered top/upper-mid houses.

"failing" how?

What did nationals change in order to make UVa APhi so suddenly successful?

Seems like SSS is trying to make the same pivot by shutting down and reopening. What's the secret sauce that SSS doesn't have?

time. it takes time to recolonize and move up tiers at all. who knows if tri sig will do it, but it's possible with time

Almost -- but just fyi, interest group is the term used when a group of people are interested in starting a new sorority and going national. If they first formed a local sorority (only present here not anywhere else, with different letters than any NPC group), and they are interested in going national, the national will absorb the local.

Given the details above, Phi Mu or AOPi should be given first consideration to expand. They may or may not want to. If either expresses interest, they can present on campus, along with other NPC groups wanting to expand and then interview and select women to be charter members. If a group of women has already colonized itself they can choose to become Phi Mu or AOPi or petition any other available group. Say they don't want either; the group can choose to could contact Alpha Sigma Alpha or Delta Phi Epsilon or Alpha Sigma Tau or somebody else and see if those two groups want to expand.

There are variables and there has to be mutual interest. Both above scenarios could happen simultaneously at UVA since there are hundreds of girls who want a sorority home.

I think you are talking about an existing interest group of women who have already organized themselves and are looking for national affiliation. That is not what is occurring here.

When a ISC votes to expand, all the NPC sororities without an active chapter may submit a packet expressing their interest in establishing a colony. The campus ISC chooses from the packets and invites several organizations to participate. They are under no obligation to choose a chapter just because a previous chapter existed on campus, though they can certainly take that into consideration. Phi Sigma Sigma, or the other two, would only interview potential members if formally invited to establish a chapter by ISC. It is possible that ISC will not pick one of the NPCs, or one will be chosen, or more than one will be chosen in a "stacked" expansion - where one comes on campus during a certain year and then another is invited to comes later.

Yes, I was trying to show how it all works in general and there are many details and scenarios. The "consideration" could be given (or maybe already has been) to Phi Mu or AOP with the invitation to present so it'll interesting to see if any or both of these groups do expand or if completely different sororities colonize here. I think at least TWO MORE GROUPS could easily establish and be successful!