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Historically? Without a doubt -- KD, DDD and AGD. First Circle, remember? But giving KKG is due, it's also been a top house for a very, very long time. I think most people would say that KD, DDD and KKG are the three traditionally top houses. They each have had some tough years at different times, but tend to bounce back. XO and AXO have also been strong historically and round out Old Row. PM rose to its current status much later. PM and AXO grew in stature in the last 20-25 years or so because they were much more open the wave of OOS and especially far OOS (OOR?) coming to Bama. It definitely paid off. And it put other OR houses in the position of playing catch up. KKG and DDD are now much more open to OOR and in my opinion it is why they are now back on top with AXO and PM. KD, XO and AGD are also catching on.